An Illegal Immigrant Murdered His Three Children and California's Sanctuary State Has Blood on Its H

Here's one great example and I bet we even had a threat around here on it at the time, a judge allowed illegal immigrants or at least one of them to exit the judge's Chambers to avoid Federal immigration authorities.

Will you tell me that was only my imagination too?

 

Can't say. As far as I know that's a make believe example. Try something you can support with evidence and not a story you heard.

 

No, and it wasn't supposed to. It wasn't a statement of sympathy, it was a statement of fact. Take a walk around any funeral and try comforting people with facts(instead of empathy or religion) and see how far that gets you. It's purpose was not to console, it was to inform. And since it was written in response to the thread you started, I'm deducing that it was meant to inform you.

 

Sanctuary city policies are in place to protect the criminals. Not the innocent. If California cared about protecting the innocent then this man would have been deported. But they considered this violent offender the victim....

 

It was talked about here complete with sources and links.

Sorry if that goes against the narrative you're trying to present.

 

Smarmy comments without backup are simply smarmy comments that I take as such.

 

I don't know how you managed to perceive that.
You're the one telling me that a factual case came from my imagination.

Typical of a leftist always accuse you of what they are doing

 

It's easy to cherry pick when those individuals shouldn't have even been here! What do you have against the "rule of law"?

 

And they would be right too but it's too late for them.

 

"Wokeness".

 

It was the sanctuary laws in California that kept him here. He should have long ago been deported. Had he been sent home he might have retained custody of his children and not felt justified in killing them.

 

Arrested for domestic violence or any certain crime would have created problems with the adjustment process. It would have been delayed, evenually rejected, etc. Adjustment of Status can take up to 2 years. The problem with the immigration system is that your status has not officially changed until that adjustment is finalized. This now includes categories such as K1 and K3 visas. K1 is good for 90 days once you enter the country and K3 is good for 2 years. If the process takes longer, then you are "technically" out of status under immigration law.

 

That is not exactly true. Only certain immigration offenses are punishable under 18 USC. Most violations under 8 USC, the immigration code, is civil in nature, not criminal.

This type of argument is misleading at the least, and legally ignorant at its worst. Depending on what type of violation occurs, it could be civil or criminal, misdemeanor or felony. I am only interested in felony convictions for any person, immigrant or USC. And any person, with certain limited exceptions, fall under the 1st, 4th, 5th, and 8th admendments under the Constitution through the 15th admendment.

 

What have republicans had against the rule of law for the past decades? Old rumpy had a few illegals at his golf course.

 

Gotta love contradictions

Well if it's not criminal then why all the bother with legalization process's..

 

Blame California for his actions? You mean he would not have done it if they had been in Mexico, or in Texas?

 

For starters, it's not a contradiction. Details matter under the law. The difference between civil and criminal is the type of punishment. Civil usually involves fines, injunctions, or deportation in immigration civil offenses. Crimional violations generally means some type of jail time either in the county lockup or in state prison depending on the severity of the criminal offense.

Adjustment of status, in many cases, is done by the USC spouse unless it is through work related green cards for aliens already here under H or O visas. It's easier for the alien in t he long run without goiung throug the complex immigration system every few years or less. That's why most aliens do adjustment of status. But at the same time, it takes $$$$$$ to file, like over $1000 and that is unaffordable for even most US citizens too.

But then again, I worked on a case a decade ago where the immigrant spouse was illegal becasue her USC spouse refused to file the I-485, Adjustment of Status form after they got married. Evenually, she was able to get the courage of filing the abused spouse relief and evenuntually got her green card. In between that time, she was "illegal." Point is that this is a complex issue and the law dictates what relief, if any, can be applied. Its very limited but still there.

 

Obstructing requires an obligation under the law. The 287g program is strictly voluntary and ICE has abused its authority in some cases. Cooperation between different jurisdictions, expecially between FED law enforcement and State/Local law enforcement can be tenuous at times. Remember Waco and David Koresh. You had two county deputies who were in cahoots with David Koresh and would have warned him abpout the raid. There are two sheriffs I know in East Texas who would not work with the FBI or ATF on any matter. Should they be arrested too on obbstruction charges?

IMO, ICE should go after the criminal immigration violaters, not the people who care here when they were 2 because of their parents and stayed ever since and now is oporating a business, paying taxes, being responsible and not even got a traffic ticket.

 

Oh but it was and it is..

Detained then deportation if caught.. Clearly we don't deport naturalized immigrants

 

It has everything to do with this are you serious? Lol. And again what you said makes zero sense.

 

It's not a contradiction at all just as there is no contradiction between a hobo and a vagrant. Details matter and in those details, the difference shows there is no contradiction.

I hate to pee in your cherrios, but under 8 USC 1224 (b), only those violations are deportable. Most of the other violations that are not subject to 18 USC and 8 USC 1224 can be remedied without deportation.

 

No IMHO it was contradictory, you clearly wanted both sides Sok! The way our politicians have been handling illegal immigration, it's actually SOP! Some meld in to society for decades have children and do just fine never being naturalized! Some are caught up in gangs, criminal activity and are jailed and deported! Some never make it a mile beyond the the U.S border and are detained and deported..

In other words, there is enough variety of scenario's to meet any angle of debate

 

Because of where most murders take place and who commits them, posting stories about them gets is not politically correct.

 

5 dead and hundreds of injured capital police officers? You are really twisting things around here. It's the left who not only ignored the blm riots, looting, arson and murders, they sometimes cheered them on. 1/6 was a one time event that people are still locked up for by the people who say they want to empty prisons and eliminate bail. The illegal in this story is a repeat criminal just like Floyd. While those people are still wasting away in jail, many of the blm rioters, looters and arsonists either weren't arrested at all, or had their charges dropped when they were.

And regarding your claim about cherry picking, that's exactly what happened with Floyd. Have you have seen violent riots when a 'hoodster murders another 'hoodster?

 

Odd, all this tallied from invisible people? It almost begs the question, why, why if they are so passive a people they are fleeing a peaceful country in favor of one that you expect "stories on massacres committed by natural born US citizens with US citizen commits mass murder."

Perplexing