An Illegal Immigrant Murdered His Three Children and California's Sanctuary State Has Blood on Its H

Who knows. But Mexico has a pretty high murder rate.

 

Would current and historical U.S. immigration practices be acceptable in say Australia, Denmark or Sweden?

 

So, he would not have committed the murders if he had been in Texas? I just find it odd that you shift the blame away from the killer and onto someone else.

 

The countries south of our border have insanely high murder rates. It's not logical to think only the safe ones come here.

 

According to the left there are no bad people coming across the border.

 

No, the country isn't divided when it comes to border security. Enforcing our immigration laws would not be a divisive move.

 

Here's logic 101 for you: You don't get to claim something is fake or make believe just because you haven't heard about it. Is that so hard?

But I'm more than happy to prove you wrong:

https://www.alaskasnewssource.com/c...ng-out-back-door-of-courthouse-509076141.html

Googling will also pull up a new york times article (and others).

Also, how about the time a mayor announced that an ice raid was about to take place? I'm requesting that you tell me this is make believe too.

 

50% of crimes go unsolved, so your conclusion above is flawed. It only makes sense that it is easier for an illegal to get away with crime than a citizen - no address, no ID, no way to track them down - so as far as solved crimes go, it only makes sense that citizens are caught at a higher rate which nullifies your conclusion. Illegal aliens can sneak back and forth across the border as they please - commit a crime in America, head back to Mexico until the heat is off. Then repeat. Biden and friends are doing us citizens a huge disservice by allowing the stampede of invaders.

 

The overly emotional left at it again with interesting takes about what I allegedly do and don’t care about based on their emotions. Gotta those in the racism card to lol.

 

Well, that's some bull****.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics/criminal-noncitizen-statistics
I mean, who would have stepped up and committed these crime were they not here? I mean, if it's ok to have millions of people here illegally who cost us billions in crime and internal aid why NOT allow those people in to destroy the lives of those here who are law abiding? Thanks, I've never even thought that it was ok to allow more crime than we currently have. That's got to be the dumbest idea to support criminals I've ever read.

 

I was not referring to any immigration laws.

Illegal aliens are absolutely not immigrants.

just because you don't care about misdemeanors doesn't make them not crimes.

The limited exceptions are when they're involved in criminal activity and the illegal aliens are involved in criminal activity simply by being here. They invaded the country and continue to stay that is a crime.

 

I presume he couldn't have done it if he was in Mexico and his three girls was in CA.

 

We know that he had to have supervised visits with his children. South of our border, a man can beat his children and not have supervised visits. Its fair to say it would have been unlikely.

 

Actually they are under INA 214. Whether or not they have legal status is a different question.

Failure to pay your taxes timely is also a violation of the law. Should we start jailing everybody who does not timely pay? Or should we jail everybody who violates the speed on any public road? Should we jail owners of restaurants who miss certain health inspection points and jail them for their offenses. So, what crimes have you committed today criminal?

If an illegal is involved in a crime, then it is the crime, not the fact that they are illegal. Police officers have been arrested, fired, etc for domestic violence issues in some cases and in some cases are let go. Its not the fact they are a police officer that they committed a crime, it is the crime itself and the facts and circumstances that resulted in that crime.

 

He could have always "hired" somebody to do the deed. It's happened before in California, Texas, Ohio, Oklahoma, and a few other cases I know.

 

that's like saying someone who breaks into your house in just decides it's theirs now is the resident.

this is a red herring I never mentioned jailing anybody I mentioned prosecuting.

I won't respond to any more of your red herrings because they're just a pathetic attempt to distract from the discussion.

This is also a distraction I'm not interested in talking about.

Focus on the topic please.

 

Anyone paying you $50 an hour to cut your lawn and trim your hedges Thats the going rate in the bay area for a illegal(?) to do it for my Mother!

 

Well....probably not

 

Not really and not what the law says and does not say. If you do not understand the difference between civil and criminal and how it applies, then I cannot help you understand my counterpoint. That is on you and no one else.

Considering your argument is the red herring, I simply applied your logic to a more broad base of other types of violations of the law. If you believe that any and every violation of law makes a person a criminal, which has a connotation that you did some type of jail time after being convicted of said crime, then you might want to start by understanding how US law works precisely. Each I have listed are similar in nature to various types of immigration violations that can occur or be made by an alien in this country.

No, it's not a distraction. I am merely arguing that whoever commits a crime, whether they are Democrat, Republican, Citizen, Immigrant, Illegal Immigrant, etc, it is the facts and circumstances of how and why the crime is committed rather than focusing on the singular symbolism you are using to make yourself feel better.

 

now we revert to the most dishonest tactic that you people can muster gaslighting everyone that disagrees with you just doesn't know or understand.

you're just accusing me of that because I accused you of that and you can't figure out a way to lie your way out of it.

Further if this is the case and you're not buying you weren't smart enough to pick up on it until after I caught you in your dishonesty.

Maybe you aren't lying maybe you're just that incompetent.

 

MHO is your are complicating the word it's self It's "the word" pretty cut and dry!

You steal, you're a thief, you murder, you're a murderer and so on.. In the eyes of the law for all practical purposes you are a criminal regardless if you are caught in the act or not, right?

Or are we going with the "If a tree falls in the forest" scenario

 

To be clear, what "word" is that? Illegal? Immigrant? Law? or the phrase "facts and circumstances?"

 

See last post I hit post way before I was done

 

So you are saying that anyone above the age of 18 are all criminals?

Considering that everyone above the age 18 violates the law at some point in time suggests, by your logic, that we are all criminals, according to your definition.

 

Once they are aware of laws, then yes and you do realize we try minors as adult in some cases in this country, right? Sadly, in the eyes of the law, a law broken is simply a law broken at any age or gender. Of course you can't call a child a thief for taking a piece of candy, but they should be taught that it's stealing and so on! So much for children and age..