Angry owner blows up his Tesla electric car

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  1. modernpaladin

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    so... invest in vanadium!
     
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    I don't know anything about them. I certainly can't afford one. I definitely can't afford a lemon.
     
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    Not yet ready for prime time.

    But some of the disadvantages for flow batteries include expensive fluids that are also corrosive or toxic, and the balance of system costs are relatively high along with the parasitic (on-site) load needed to power the pumps.

    Despite technological advances, flow batteries struggle against market ...
     
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    Many people don't think ahead about this sort of stuff... I mean, you can go onto YouTube right now and look up videos of people driving their Teslas into gas stations and spending minutes trying to figure out how to put gas into it, only to eventually realize that you don't fill up Teslas with gas.

    It's funny stuff. There's even video of a woman at a gas station grabbing the gas nozzle and washing her car with gasoline.
     
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    It's inefficient when compared to gas vehicles which burn the fuel right at the source.
     
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    There's a place for them, but they aren't for everybody. They wouldn't work for me because the refueling time isn't fast enough.
     
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    The problem of refueling time cannot be solved. You can only safely charge a battery so fast. It will always take hours (rather than minutes) to fully refuel.
     
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    So, if you could switch out batteries , or have an attendant and do it within 3 minutes would it work for you? Or do you have other reservations? I once thought about a service station that did just that. Kinda like refillable propane tanks.
     
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    Yes, electric vehicles work great as commuter cars (always driving short distances in/around the city).

    I also hope you realize that electricity is generated mainly by burning coal and hydrocarbons (or "fossil fuels" as people mistakenly call them).
     
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    Then you don't have to concern yourself with battery replacement.
     
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    the battery tech is what keeps me from buying a electric car.... but the tech is improving

    I am waiting for something like the solid state batteries
     
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    so did gas powered cars until the infrastructure and technology caught up
     
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    they are unsafe, even your cellphone



    they do not mix with air or water well

    but technology is advancing, we will get there
     
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    I have other reservations too.
     
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    Thought so.
     
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    Nope. They were an advance from the start.
     
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    It is far more practical and less expensive to produce electric power on a large scale than it is to store it.
    There is a huge difference between storing small amounts of electric power versus storing large amounts of electric power.

    For the cost of one electric power storage system you could probably have built four or five renewable energy power plants.

    So no, it really does not make much sense to be adding electric storage into the power supply at this time.
     
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    Exhaust from propane is much lower in pollutants than exhaust from other liquid fuels.

    Scientifically, this is due to two factors. Propane contains a somewhat higher ratio of hydrogen to carbon (33% higher) and the fuel (being a gas) is completely vaporized before combustion ensuring more complete combustion.
     
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    Except when there are breakdowns in the system
     
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    Tesla is a **** company when it comes to cars. If you buy one of their cars and 2 months later it breaks down first off you're not going to find anybody that can repair it second you're out of pocket because that company's motto is you bought it **** you. If electric cars are the future then the only future for Tesla is a Ford or GM or Mercedes buys it.

    There's no way even if I wanted an electric car that I would ever consider a Tesla.
     
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    Backup generators are superior. There's a lot less damage to the environment when they have to be replaced it's not toxic chemicals that just get dumped into the ocean or into a landfill.

    The burning of petrochemical is really minute amount of pollution compared to having to dispose of massive batteries every seven or eight years and they don't last much longer than that.
     
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    Especially when the breakdowns in the system are very temporary and infrequent.

    This is one type of issue where Progressive Leftist greenies all too often follow their emotional inclinations, rather than the science math and logic.
     
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    The wasted money was buying the car in the first place but he probably broke even or even earned money with this video stunt and I think that's good.

    Terrible car companies no matter how much people are in love with the personality that operates them which is bizarre should be exposed.
     

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