Another left wing claim against Ivermectin bites the dust.

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Their isn't on it is verboten Herr Golem. But the has been in use on humans for quite a while with out consequences. By the way there no long term study on anything for human covid patients because humans with covid haven't been around long enough to do one.
     
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    Thousands? That milestone was leapt over early last year.
     
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    Wait. He's not a medical doctor? The retraction said that he hadn't worked with them for a couple of months but I didn't see anything about him not being a licensed physician. What'd I miss?
     
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    The baseless claim is that this drug is effective in treating covid.
     
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    I dunno, to AT LEAST get both sides of a story, that's what I do.. Then again I haven't been programmed to ONLY consider one side of any story and the that MUST coincide with indoctrination guidelines handed down form DNC HQ ;)
     
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    It doesn't. But you're a Trump supporter. So I wouldn't expect you to understand the difference.

    BTW, there is no such thing as "liberal media"
     
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    Sure. But the OP doesn't provide them.
     
  8. garyd

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    Stupid question why not ask if the moon is made of green cheese it is almost as related. Vaccines and treatments are different approaches. Vaccines are supposed to lower your risk of catching the disease treatments are supposed to keep you from dying of it once contracted.
    Nope the baseless claim is that taken in normal doses it is dangerous.
     
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    My point was saying the approved they horse drugs but also the vaccine doesn’t really help the anti vax argument.
     
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    This is such a stupid post. Where do you get the belief that embracing therapeutics is an "anti-vax" position? WTF?

    There are tons of break through cases from those that received the vaccines. Therapeutics for everyone makes sense, instead of relying on Tylenol and OTC cough medicine.

    This post is even more stupid as the Rolling Stone retraction is on the first page of this thread.


    Look at all you Leftists wanting believe so bad in a total Fake News story. I also heard there was some new "Trump-Russia Collusion".
     
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    So the point of this thread is that Rolling Stone retracted? I think that's great! Fox and the rest of wingnut media should learn that, when you make a mistake, you should retract.
     
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    Because I only hear about horse drugs from anti vaxers. I saw you ran from that rolling stone story when I asked you to quote him saying he meant that hospital
     
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    99% of the people in the hospitals for covid are unvaccinated, that says it all... get the vaccine
     
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    It might be debatable, but it's not baseless.
     
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    Nobody approved a horse drug. Ivermectin is approved in the formulation and dosages approved for human use (for which the creators won a Nobel Prize in 2015).

    The left just can't give up a losing, transparently dumb talking point, though.
     
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    It is an anti parasitic drug which is also used for dogs and other small animals as well as humans.
     
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    You only hear about horse drugs from anti-vaxxers in the context of explaining to leftists pushing an already tired, failed talking point that Ivermectin does come in a version for people that has literally treated tens of millions since 1998 for other issues.

    But I get it, that's the dishonest slander now - calling a drug that has been successfully used in people for well over 20 years now a "horse drug". The version for people is not a horse drug.

    The left has latched onto this failed talking point with an iron grip and is happy to risk looking stupid to keep pushing it.
     
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    The point is...why are we digging around for just one study to validate a drug not designed to fight the virus and declare "science" while at the same time denouncing multiple studies that are peer reviewed regarding a vaccine that was designed specifically for this virus?

    That makes no sense.
     
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    Because it's not either/or. I'd recommend the vaccine, but don't, because I'm not any individual's doctor. At the same time, there are still people that get COVID and need treatment once they have it. As of today, the count of people in my personal circle who HAVE been vaccinated and HAVE had COVID in the past month is at 13. Last Thursday it was at 11. That's people I know personally.

    I can and have posted studies showing that there is a benefit to Ivermectin. You don't have to "dig around" for them.


    At the same time, there are a couple of studies disputing it, so the science isn't settled yet. I tend to think this has been politicized to push one treatment, Remdesivir, over other treatments that are cheaper. Remdesivir is not developing a good track record at all for treating COVID, but that's what Fauci pushes, most likely because of the drug companies' influence.
     
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    It seems that this vaccine is not working sir. Many of those now testing positive have been fully vaccinated. My point is that this drug now in question is designed to kill parasites infesting the bodies of animals and humans and is safe at certain dosages like all drugs. What possible harm can come from killing parasites which are infecting your body? Also, there are those who claim it can also be effective against viruses. Why not study whether or not it does kill viruses also.
     
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    Please say you're not one of these folk who think the vaccine is a literal forcefield, preventing the virus from reaching you?
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am not. However I did assume that it would work.
     
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    No, the point is that nobody on the left digs for anything. They parrot exactly what the DNC funnels to the MSM fake news.

    I already linked one study, how about a whole damn website full of studies???

    Remember when the delta variant was on the news in India....people dying left and right...remember? You know what they did? Used ivermectin. NO more delta problems. The end.

    https://ivmmeta.com/
     
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    Indeed. Why not let the doctors and scientists do their jobs without politicizing it? Let's fine the best treatment. It's bad enough the world is stuck forever with the flu. Now we're facing being stuck with the Super Wu Flu II.

    This is NOT the first time Ivermectin has been tested against a virus. Yes, it started out as a parasite treatment, and was highly successful, but it has been tested for decades against viruses, too, with some success, well before COVID-19 was created in a Chinese lab.
     
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    It does work. Almost 100% of people who become very ill with COVID are unvaccinated.
     
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