Another left wing claim against Ivermectin bites the dust.

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  1. 21Bronco

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    Then why did the CDC stop tracking breakthrough cases?

    I do not doubt that the vaccine provides or did provide some protection against symptoms that would require hospitalization or intubation. This isn't about the vaccine. It's about a treatment for COVID once someone has it, regardless of whether they're vaccinated or not.

    The vaccines now have just about been shown to not be permanent - they are temporary and either wear off after time, or progressively protect less and less against new strains, or both.

    So this thread is about leftist lies about a treatment ONCE someone has it. It's not a statement one way or the other on the vaccine itself.

    We do know:
    People who have had the vaccine can get COVID.
    People who have had the vaccine can get COVID and transmit it to others.
    Breakthrough cases of COVID are increasing.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nothing is preventing anyone from using this anti parasitic drug. You can buy it online. Get it and use it if you like.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People on the left have always promoted the use and study of alternative medicine,
     
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    We're not discussing mushrooms and weed.
     
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    So, the CDC or NIH changed the release from liability to doctors and hospitals for COVID treatment in the last few months. This affects their malpractice insurance. The change added a provision that requires FDA approval for a treatment before the release from liability would be in effect. THIS means that while there is no BAN on Ivermectin, doctors and hospitals are making policies to NOT provide it because they can't get liability protection for using it.

    Which means it's likely difficult to get "online" in the human prescribed form.

    It's about the $$$$$$$$$. Oddly enough, the FDA fast tracked an unproven and expensive drug, Remdesivir, which, while showing no proof of effectiveness at fighting COVID, does make the pharmaceutical company producing it RICH.
     
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    WTF are you babbling about this time? The original propaganda was a hoax. You fell right for it, just like Trump Russia Collusion.
     
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    The point of the story is that it should have never been a story. It never happened. It was propaganda to discourage therapeutics. But, the neato part about all this is laughing at the Leftists that still want to argue for the original hoax to be true. It's a joke anymore to converse with them.
     
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    There is no anti vac argument. There is an argument concerning exactly how safe the new mRNA vaccines are
     
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    And young people seem more susceptible to the variants. This is such bad timing for chaning this virus and trying to kids back in the classroom safely.
     
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    How was it a hoax? You never did provide a quote where he mentions that hospital
     
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    In that case what a serious publication should do is immediately retract.

    Oh...wait.... wasn't that what you said they did?

    Hmm... maybe not so serious media like Fox, Breitbart and redstate.com could learn from them.
     
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    A bad time for the left to be spreading lies about COVID treatments, too (which is what this thread was originally about). But, such is the reality in which we live.

    If quote "anti vaxxers" are responsible for deaths, so are leftists spreading lies about treatments that could save lives. Goes both ways, don'tcha think?
     
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    There's no need. He said "his hospitals". We've narrowed that down to two medical outfits, neither of which confirmed his claims, and one of which flat out denied it.

    Despite being asked numerous times for the name of the hospitals which DID have a line of gunshot victims going untreated due to the flood of Ivermectin poisoning cases, you've continued to come up completely empty handed. If you want to defend the leftist lie here, burden of proof is ALL YOURS. Time to take the L, dude.
     
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    Joe Rogan Bounces Back From COVID To Win Kentucky Derby.

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    Rolling Stone’s ivermectin fiction shows why Republicans don’t trust media. It's because they are Fake News Liars acting as the propaganda mouthpiece of the Democrat Party.
    A correction is for when you get a fact wrong. When you just make the whole damn thing up, what's needed is a dose of basic integrity, not a "correction".

    Rolling Stone admits it has no evidence for a story about ivermectin overdoses in Oklahoma.

    None. The picture of the "gunshot victims" standing outside the clinic because "horse wormer overdoses" had taken all the inside seats, was propaganda, thrown into the fake news echo chamber and then blasted around the world by Left's Fake New dissemination system.

    What I find weird is why folks on the Left with integrity keep falling for this, over and over and over and over again for years.

    I also wonder why some women stay with guys that beat them, and if they do leave them, quickly take up with another wife abuser.

    It seems to me that the folks on the Left who keep falling for the lies, deep down inside them, something is badly broken. There is a deeper reason for why they cannot break their addiction to fake news and insist on their news sources telling them the truth.
     
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    That's not true. That's not even close to being true. Do you have a link for that fiction?

    Here's what happens, even in a highly vaccinated population

    https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...a-dramatic-surge-in-new-covid-cases-heres-why

    Tons and tons of breakthrough cases. You want to know who rarely catches CV-19? Those with the natural antibodies are 13X less likely to have receive it again compared to the vaccinated. In fact, out of a 700,000 sample, only about 20 of those that had it prior get it again and their cases are very mild.

    Natural Immunity is the best. Vaccines are very short term 6-8 months. Therapeutics are very important now that we know the vaccines are short term.
     
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    You are sayting the left is spreading lies about which COVID treatments?
    I don't think in "us v. them" so I will always hold the position it gets messy from both sides.
     
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    It is true in Alabama. Just Google covid alabama. And...the rest of the post is fantasy. Why risk death waiting for natural immunity? I am immune to tetnas because of a vaccine. I imagine it is much better than having lockjaw.
     
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    Misfire Double Post
     
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    How about you provide a link like a good little contributor. Like I did.... from a source you should be fine with as a Leftist. NPR.
     
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    Probably, reading the thread before you post might give you the answer. Then again, it might not.
     
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    We are talking about alternative and homeopathic medicine in general. That includes mushroom and weed but is not limited to them.
     
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    I agree that the FDA and CDC are all about the $$$$$.
     
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    When did the nutters switch from Hydroxychroriquine to worm pills?

    That's odd given the fact that neither are for-profit.
     
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    But you aren't immune to covid because of the vaccine...
     

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