Another mass shooting deserves a better answer.

Discussion in 'United States' started by kungfuliberal, Aug 3, 2019.

  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    If there is something in your link that supports what you said the post it here in public and I will address, I don't follow blind links which usually lead to nowhere and do not support what is claimed.

    If you got something to say, other than your snarky cliche's then say it.
     
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    Although Obama did a long list of things that were beyond questionable and bad for the country, the one I'll mention here today was his pushing hatred against cops. This has led to more murders and hits on them causing many to rethink going into law enforcement. Try to think of what it would be like without police and ICE which the democrat party is pushing as well. This while they are advocating for more and more gun control.

    If the democrats get their way, the country will become a war zone. It wouldn't even be safe to go out in pure daylight to pick up food supplies. Home invasions would go through the roof bc thugs and drug addicts would know there's no guns in the home to shoot them while they themselves would always have them thanks to the black market or dark web. And there'd be no point calling 911 bc there would be no cops anyway.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would they need a straw buyer with lax gun laws? I appreciate you admitting laws have no effect on criminals. Every criminal who wants a gun has one already.

    What good is a paper trail when a murder weapon can be disposed of in one of the many gun buyback programs. The killer even gets a gift card!
     
  4. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    Except all of cielo vista mall is a gun free zone according to the posted rules of the property owners so.... doesn't matter what the tenant posts the landlord rules for the mall complex rule.
     
  5. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    And the posts from pro-gunners have stated that "Concealed is concealed unless someone has X-Ray vision". The Walmart is not in the mall itself, it is near to the Cielo Vista mall
     
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    This has veered from the original conversation of treating cars and guns the same. So let's do just that, and keep the "It's common sense legislation" lobby happy.
    If I take my shotgun onto the lawn of city hall and fire it harmlessly into the ground I would be arrested, charged, jailed and appear in court shortly afterwards. If I ask for my shotgun back that request would be refused because it is obvious to anyone I can't be trusted with a firearm.
    Now
    If I got drunk and drove my car onto the lawn of city hall and crashed harmlessly into a wall I would be arrested, charged, jailed and appear in court shortly afterwards. If I ask for my car back they would say "No problem, it was towed to....." .
    No matter how many times I got drunk and crashed my car into the wall at City Hall, after bonding out of jail they would give me my car back despite having proven to everyone that I can't be trusted with a 6000 pound missile. Yes they may take away my drivers license, but they won't confiscate my car. They may insist on an easily defeated ignition interlock, but they won't confiscate my car.
    So how about treating felons and convicted drunk drivers the same and keeping lethal weapons out of their hands?
     
  7. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    They weren't there.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Cease being disingenuous, the 1994 AWB would not make a damm bit of a difference.
     
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    And it shall remain that way.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The law was based on cosmetic BS, or don't you understand that?
     
  11. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    So you're saying "let's commit a felony" or class A misdemeanor yayyyy?

    Its on attached property. Counts.
     
  12. truth and justice

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    LOL. A website that even has a "NRA Signup" tab has posters saying things like they would ignore any notices unless orally challenged, "concealed means no one would know", and stated that Walmart did not actually display any 06 or 07 notices anyway, yet you think that they don't represent typical gun carriers!
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Oh dear, you did not bother to read the pro-gun website link where I got those quotes from!
     
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    Why do you think the links were correct?

    Carry in Cielo vista is illegal, people who carry tend to care about things like that as opposed to criminals.

    As to "only x ray vision": printing is almost entirely unavoidable, particularly in Texas where it is hot as two rats ****ing in a wool sock on any given day.
     
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    And, I'll say it again - until you clean up your Ultra Liberal Houses on the matter of Bad Parenting, you will never clean up the crime laden streets of America with more legislation that does not work and never will work. You want to stop producing mass shootings? Stop producing mass shooters through massively poor parenting. It really is just that simple - yet America is too hypocritical to sit itself down and face the music of its own failure to Parent over the past 4-5 decades.
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    The Wallmart is not in the mall!

    And are you saying that the posters in the forum https://www.texasguntalk.com/threads/30-06-and-30-07-sign-postings.92103/page-13 are all liars?

    And what has "Concealed is concealed unless someone has X-Ray vision" got to do with printing?
     
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    Which proves nothing, period.
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    It proves that gun carriers ignore "gun free zone" notices and conceal carry their guns into those zones. Period. Unless you are calling all those Texan gun carriers liars?
     
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    To argue against confiscation does not require a confiscation law to already have been passed. The entire point is to prevent confiscation in the first place. And there are certainly people who think a confiscation law would be desirable. Those people need to be kept at bay.
     
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    These are all just claims without evidence that can be dismissed without evidence.
     
  21. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    So you are saying that all those gun loving forum posters are liars
     
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    What gun-loving forum posters?
     
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    Is your real life name Truth and Justice?

    If not, then the comments of those present at online forums do not necessarily reflect real life.
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    So you are also saying that all those pro-gun forum posters are liars
     
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    Pretty sure its on attached property owned by the same landowner

    I'm saying none of them claim to be at the el paso walmart and posted a picture and openly admit that walmart's policy is that people caught carrying get challenged. Individual walmarts can indeed post.

    Printing is what occurs when you see the outline of the gun or holster, or the little pockets and spaces it makes in larger clothes, through the clothing. In Texas the law is that its concealed so long as no one sees it. Once they see it, not concealed.
    Its pretty much impossible to dress in summer clothes in Texas heat (it was like 113 here yesterday ffs) and not print. More to the point walmart has made it clear in the past they don't want people carrying there so normal people tend not to.
     

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