And by driving a car, you assume the risk of having an accident. Therefore no one should get to use scarce medical resources by seeking medical care after an auto accident. Consent to sex is consent to sex. That's it. It's not consent to being enslaved. Naturally, Whaler17 will now tell us sex is a different case, by shifting the topic to his belief that embryos are people. That means the whole "consent" thing was a red herring, so one wonders why it was brought up.
Nobody should be able to walk over to someone they have just hit and kill them so they cannot interfere with their lives from that point forward, you know filing lawsuits etc..... That is the fitting analogy to abortion!
As you know, abortion will happen anyway, unless you keep all women in cowhouses. Nothing you do will stop it otherwise. It is like Prohibition - self-important, self-rightesous bullying by clowns. Grow up and talk sense. If you don't like abortion, improve the world.
So do you think that murders don't still happen despite the laws against them? Does this justify removing the laws against them? Your post is logically flawed. It is actually nothing like "cowhouses" or prohibition in any reasonable way. Prohibition of intentional homicide is in the best interest of society as whole, wouldn't you agree?
No it is not, since born people are sentient and fetuses are not. Anyway, as has been said above, you are moving the goalposts - your point was based on the notion that sex should have consequences, not that embryos should be valuable as born humans. Red herring.
That is pure nonsense. A fetus is a human being, and human beings should be proected from would be killers. I see that you are just a parrot and simply repeat what your partners in crime say when you have been beaten down, nonetheless what you posted here is laughable. In my analogy, the responsible party was killing the victim to escape the consequences of his/her actions. Just like an abortion committing woman would be doing.
Noone questions it when it comes to homicide after birth. But is also prohibition of intentional homicide of unsentient humans such as embryos and braindead people in the best interest of society as whole? Thats the question. I dont think so. If you think so, show why.
Thats your opinion, which many do not share. I think only sentient humans should be protected. Its not like abortion, since contrary to abortion, the victim has a mind. I see that you are just a parrot and will simply repeat that its human, without actually trying to justify why should mindless humans be protected (or try to justify it with some current legislation at best, which is a very weak argument - laws are not necessarily moral or good).
Murders happen for a number of reasons. In your country, for instance, you insist on arming every halfwit, so your murder rate is very high. You don't prevent murder, however, by passing laws based on stupid ideas but by analysing the causes and changing the situation. You do not, as you know, believe in 'society' but in bullying and self-righteousness. which are totally destructive.
What is pure nonsense is your claim that a zygote is a human being since you are not able to support that claim. The second point is that experts do not agree with your claim and in the public at large there is raft disagreement. What you are left with at the end of the day is "I do not know" even if the best arguments are made, none of which you seem to be aware of. How does one weigh "I dont know" against the Constitutionally protected rights accorded to humans of life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness ?
Nope. It's just more babbling on your part. Let's get back to the point. You said having sex is consenting to take a pregnancy to term. Your support for that claim? "Because I say so!". No one cares if you say so. Get over it. No one cares if you're stopped from being a control freak. A woman's body does not belong to you, your state or your church. Learn to deal with that fact.
A silly comparison. Do you have any data regarding murders and the absence of laws about them. We all know that anti abortion laws, like all morality coercion do not work.
No it is not and after repeated requests you still have been able to support that. You have yet to even list the characteristics that you think make a fetus a human being. Really how so? What were the consequences you are implying?
It is not a matter of understanding, it is the fact that you can not answer the question with anything intelligent. You as usual only evade.
Bzzzzt. Unsupported assertion. Again, "Because I say so!" is not an argument, no matter how often you say it is. I'm the guy pointing out that people who say "abortion is murder" are either dishonest or crazy. Why don't you just tell the truth? You think abortion is bad, but that it's nothing like murder. I don't bother pro-lifers who are honest like that. Oh, I have no trouble with you continuing to babble. You, however, seem to have insane amounts of trouble with not being able to control women. Sucks to be you, but you'll have to learn to deal with it.
Because you say so? Please repost this proof that abortion is homicide. If it existed, that should be no trouble for you.
Do not hold your breath. He has not done that a SINGLE time ever. Condescending tripe and unsupported assertions are his capability only.
