Anti LGBT Mindset: Why are YOU against gay rights? READ MOD WARNING IN OP BEFORE POST

True.

On topic.

You can deride all you like and they can deride you in return. They do have a legal "complaint" if the law is respecting your freedoms to an extent over and above their's in a manner which demonstrates no rational purpose. Beyond that you can squabble till the cows come home.

 

you have much to learn about Constitution loving Americans.

How do you prove that one is homosexual?

The answer is, other than following them into the bedroom, you can't.

So, please share with us how it is Constitutional to afford rights to a person for something they claim.

Now, freedom of religion means simply that you can practice it. You are free to have sex however you wish and there is nothing in the Constitution which cites otherwise so nothing is denied. So, one is free to practice religion and one is free to engage in gay sex.

 

Equality for homosexuals only is not an equality.

 

Which is why nobody suggested any such thing??????

 

It's certainly not equality if they do not have equality. Anyone else-I could guess who you mean-is free to start a movement, form organizations, and file court case the same way that gays have.

 

Some people truly believe that their religion prohibits it. To them I say don't associate with gays, don't have gay sex and by all means don't get gay married. Others use religion, the yuck factor and a whole bunch of other things as a excuse to satisfy their need to oppress and marginalize another group. For many, if it weren't gays it would be someone else. An us vs. them mentality. Very juvenile. And I'm convince that many of the most rabidly anti gay bloviates are afraid of their own sexuality and what tendencies they might have.

 

If you were being deprive of rights that you perceived were justly yours, how loudly would you shout? How calm would you remain? And what do you mean by "shouting " anyway. Pursuing court cases? Forming organizations to raise funds, pay legal fees and make their case to the public?

None of that would be necessary if certain other people were not "shouting" In fact, those who are opposed to gay rights are the ones making all of the noise with their anti gay smear campaigns....they are actually apoplectic and hysterical and that makes me hysterical, in a different way Every time they lose a court case I think, what doesn't kill them makes them crazier.

When hate groups like the National Organization for marriage and the Family Research Council are out of business, and when gays have equal rights, they will stop "shouting" and not before.

 

There are all sorts of limited restrictions on U.S. citizens for all sorts of things.

Redefining words to provide special accommodations to someone or a to small group is absurd and unconstitutional. May someone redefine the word "consent" to mean if one party "consents" then all parties have given "consent" so they may have sex with anyone they believe they love or lust? Would that be okay with you since redefining words to your liking seems to be what you want?

 

If redefining marriage to include same sex couples in unconstitutional, how is it that about 55 courts have said that it is not unconstitutional and that restricting marriage to a man and a woman IS unconstitutional? How come, at last count.......37 states bans on same sex marriage have been thrown out? Words do get redefined as things change. Consent is not changing. Your example is idiotic.

 

Where did i say this?

You talk of the courts but ignore the ballots that have all lost. One activist homosexual judge overturning the will of the people. Those ballot initiative prove you are wrong about public acceptance of your perversion.

My example is no more idiotic than yours. They are both about redefining a word so the minority's sexual proclivities are forcibly mainstreamed.

 

Yes, sure, but then call a spade a spade. Homosexuals want government benefits, not an equality.
That is an answer to your question, why I am against gay movement.

 

What ever you say boss. But you lose

 

well said and you are quite correct

 

Topic starter asked question only about homosexuals. this is not an equality.
He has substituted a concept of equality by his desire to obtain government benefits and privileges that homosexuals have nothing to do with.

 

Of course they want government benefits! Don't others have government benefits? That IS EQUALITY. You're against gays having equality because they want benefits! That is absurd. You say that gays don't really want equality, JUST benefits? That is even more ridiculous.

You know of course that it doesn't matter what you think or are opposed to, right. Do you know how many courts have ruled against bans on same sex marriage? Have you read any of the eloquent, scholarly and lengthy opinions that have decimated each and every argument against equality? Do you even know how many states now have equality?

 

Looks like we have a new troll in our midst. Dixon's replacement.

 

This is the gay and lesbian forum.

They have as much to do with it as heterosexuals.

 

You have asked question and you have got a valid and logical opinion. I am sorry that you did not like it. The relationship between gay people is a strictly private matter, government has no role in it. But you are correct you have got benefits not because of equality but because homosexual judge decided that way.

 

Topic starter here: What benefits are you referring to that "homosexuals have nothing to do with" ? Take a shot at this too: What is equality?

 

I don't see that gays don't have the same rights as other people. I guess because I am not with their myth I am against it.

 

Well, this is another slick substitute of the concept. You have divided people by two categories homosexual and heterosexual, even though sexuality has nothing to do with government benefits.

 

Gays have the same rights? Seriously ? You'll have to explain that although I can guess what you'll say. I've heard all of the bovine excrement before so you'll have to be real creative here

 

Everybody has the same rights. Tell me a right that I have that LGBT people do not.

 

Since marriage in the U.S. is defined as between one man and one woman, anyone may get married if they are not close relatives and are of majority age and are not already married.

How you prefer to achieve an orgasm does not mean you should have special privileges or have the right to redefine the English language to accommodate your perverted sexual appetite.

 

Getting married to the person you love and having it recognized in all 50 states.