Anti Vaxers, what the hecks wrong with these Parents

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  1. Etbauer

    Etbauer Banned

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    Yeah, in general it's just the root cause of anti-science ideology. And I could be wrong about a few things to be perfectly fair.
     
  2. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Okay, but there is a lot more info on the subject than a few links can provide.

    https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/obesity/obesity-fact-sheet

    https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/nutritional-psychiatry-your-brain-on-food-201511168626

    Not 1/3, most cancer is preventable.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2515569/
     
  3. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I love a challenge. Please quote my incorrect claim.
     
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    tkolter Well-Known Member

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    ADULTS are one thing minor children are another the HPV vaccine prevent illness and issues later so should be given. What the heck is the issue we eradicated SMALL POX IN NATURE a hideous illness due to vaccinations we could do this to other diseases if people everywhere got simple vaccines. if they found one to prevent Ebola you wouldn't agree using it in affected areas would be evil I would think.
     
  5. Collateral Damage

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    Should we all get a vaccine against malaria? How about conditions and diseases that vaccines don't exist for, but can be transmitted?

    LOCK EM UP!!!!! (oozing sarcasm)
     
  6. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree with most vaccinations and my 5 kids all got them. While I am not an anti-vaxxer, I would not suppoer over-vaxxing either.
     
  7. perdidochas

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    No, the anti-vaxxer kids wouldn't be the only ones effected. The other kids that are hurt by an outbreak are those, that for medical reasons, cannot have a vaccine--kids with compromised immune systems or specific allergies to vaccine ingredients, as well as kids who are too young to be vaccinated.
     
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    Scientific evidence for the above. I've never heard that before

    Again scientific evidence for the above. It doesn't fit anything I've ever learned about vaccines (and I have a Master's in biology, so it's not like I'm clueless about these things).
     
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    I'm a very ardent pro-lifer, and I'm pro-vaccine. It's part of pro-life, IMHO.
     
  10. perdidochas

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    The science doesn't say that. Please show your sources for that bullshit. The early vaccine for smallpox, for example, came from a similar virus cowpox. Exposure to cowpox gave immunity to smallpox, which is the opposite of your claims. (research Edward Jenner for details)
     
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    No, it wouldn't be better if nobody was vaccinated. There is a reason that vaccination helps to decrease child mortality. They have discovered in unvaccinated populations that kids who get measles are more likely to die from diseases other than measles in the first two years after getting the measles. Why? well, their bodies and immune systems are weakened from fighting the measles. That is the reason for the increased child survival from vaccines, more than avoiding the rare fatal complications of measles.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26379164
     
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    I will. He wasn't. He was wrong. Vaccination is better for a population.
     
  13. JakeStarkey

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    anecdotal and isolated incidents are useless in this discussion.

    The individual does not have the right to threaten the community's health.

    The anti-science anti-vax community reveals that its opinion need not be respected.
     
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    And there you have it... bigoted, and plainly seen for the statement it is....

    Here's hoping that no one with a position greater than yours, feels you are not due respect.
     
  15. JakeStarkey

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    You are so right that the anti-vax anti-science community is bigoted and plainly seen for its unwillingness to deal the reality of disease.
     
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    Let all who believe in vaccination get vaccinated, and vaccinate their children.
    Let all who do not, not.
    A hundred and fifty years ago, Mr Darwin elaborated on what will then happen.
     
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    The question I always ask is “How badly do Anti-vaxxers hate autistic people that they would rather their child die of an easily preventable disease than be autistic?”
     
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    You are incorrect again. Individuals cannot be forced, so they do, in fact have the right. Is there a reason you dodged my simple question?
     
  19. JakeStarkey

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    Individuals can be forced all the time to do things they want.

    The leges can remove anti-vaxxer protection any time they want.
     
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    You are incorrect again. No one can be forced. If they could, should we force HPV and flu vaccinations? Why are you dodging that question?
     
  21. JakeStarkey

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    Only people who do not understand how American law and society work believe what you right, Doofenshmirtaz.

    Quit inventing things I did not say, but do understand I will point out every inconsistency you make.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are still incorrect. This is becoming a pattern with you. Please show us where US law forces people to get vaccinated.
     
  23. JakeStarkey

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    Only you are saying that. I said leges can force people to vax, as you well know. The military forces people to be vaccinated.

    Here's more:

    Can You Legally Be Forced to Vaccinate Your Child? - HG.org
    www.hg.org/legal-articles/can-you-legally-be...
    The United States Supreme Court has upheld laws that require that children be vaccinated before they enter school. State Laws Every state requires documentation of vaccination for the purpose of school entrance. Additionally, many states require vaccination for a child to enter a licensed day care facility.
     
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    Actually they cant. No one can be held down and vaccinated outside a prison or mental hospital
     
  25. JakeStarkey

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    Actually if they want to go to school as I posted above they can be vaxxed.

    That is 'forcing', much more reasonable than the silly supposed arguments against vaxxing.
     
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