Anyone watching the CBS Coverage of Super Tuesday?

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    The opening bias against Trump was absolutely amazing. Some Democrat operative was whining about Trump being hateful of democracy. I don't seen anyone near as biased against Biden on the panel

    However I do agree with one commentator who notes that lots of Haley supporters won't vote for Trump. I also agree that Trump has lots of work to do with the suburban voters. BTW I DIDN'T EVEN know that the were actual Democrats running against Biden (we haven't had our primary yet)=never heard of either one

    I also think Haley needs to stay in because I think Trump might well get hit with a conviction before the general election
     
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    Democrats who want Biden out are voting No Labels. Many Democrats are registering as Republicans or Independents so they can vote for Haley. In the General they will vote for Biden because that election is open. Some Democrats are voting for Democratic candidates who are running against Biden. Sad you don't know who those two candidates are. I bet you know all the Republican candidates running for president thanks to LSM.
     
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    Yes, and its not only an opinion, because exit polls show 70% of GOP Haley voters will not vote for Trump, which should be a cause for concern, because she got 30-40% of votes in some places

    As of now she is out, but I suppose she can re-enter if Trump is locked up. Or......can she?

    That's pure fake news. Voting for Haley would do nothing to get Biden out.
     
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    CBS is the most biased, followed by ABC, and then NBC. I won't even mention the rags like CNN or MSNBC because they don't even try to claim they are unbiased. The DNC made sure that the only people running against Biden are no names. They ran out the ones with name recognition like RFK. The Haley supporters who won't vote for Trump are being hyped up by the left but are irrelevant. There have been many polls over the months, especially in swing states, which show Trump beating Biden both head to head and with others in the race. These polls have already factored in Haley supporters who won't vote for Trump. Of course the left will try as hard as they can to convict Trump of something before the election but I doubt they can and, even if they do, Trump will most likely be granted an appeal.
     
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    Lol, why bother watching it? We all know who will be in the general. Trump and Biden. Yay. Same old junk.

    unless they keel over from old age, which is very likely for both.
     
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    I am just curious how DNC ‘made sure” that only people with “ no name” running against Biden? us DNC putting people behind bar who wants to run for POTUS? Is DNC sending secret assassin against anyone who wants to run against Biden?
     
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    You are right, watching TV will not change anything. Millions and millions of Americans are voting for Trump and Biden and nominating them. I don’t like Trump, but I must appreciate the beauty of democracy.
     
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    :roflol:
    The DNC DID NOT do that...:bored:
    Not even close...
    Anybody who had a 10's of millions of dollars to set on fire was welcome to run...
    That said, only a brainless idiot would waste money running against an incumbent of either party...
    It is a waste of time and money...
    Even people who had name recognition and deep pockets (like Reagan 76 and Kennedy 80) couldn't do it.
     
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    Ask RFK Jr., who was denied secret service protection and pushed out of the primaries by the DNC.
     
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    Ask RFK and Cornel West. They will both tell you that the DNC did that exactly. Bernie Sanders also claimed the same thing in the past, as well as some others.
     
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    Why would RFK get secret service protection?
     
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    Barnie Sanders was never a member of Democratic Party, he is not member of Democratic party today. DNC can’t push out someone who is not member of Democratic party.

    RFK left DNC because he figured out that running as independent has better chance to be on the ballot in NOV then compete with Biden in DNC primary. Beside RFK supporters are mostly “never trump republican” they don’t vote in DNC primary.
     
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    Why memorize the names of two candidates why get less than 5% of the vote against Biden’s 80%? One is a congressman from Minnesota who sounded rational when he was interviewed on Fox News. The other one is a lady named Williamson, who is known as “the Crystal Lady” because she’s one of those nutty California mystics. She’s the first candidate I can remember who suspended her campaign and then revived it.
     
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    At least you and I can agree on one thing. Bernie Sanders has never been a member of the Democrat Party. If he had been a serious presidential candidate, he should have joined the party in 2016 and stayed in it. It wouldn’t have killed him to show some gratitude toward an organization from which he wanted their highest honor.
     
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    :roflol:
    RFK Jr. was a fringe candidate who didn't warrant SS protection...
    And, Nobody was "forced" out of the primaries by the DNC...
    Gimme a Freakin' Break...:bored:
     
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    They were WRONG!
    End of story...
     
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    When I brought up your last point before, somebody pointed out that the campaigns are merely suspended, not cancelled. If something as dramatic as that were to happen, they may resume their campaign and make an argument that a convicted candidate is untenable.

    As to bias against Trump. It seems probable that reality is biased against Trump. Do liberals pile on bias on top of what is objectively a detestable person? Maybe. Do conservatives excuse what he does because he promotes their agenda? Often. Everything about everything he does can be explained by narcissism trumping everything else. He has no values other than his own ego. It's not benevolence or evil. It's just a personality disorder.
     
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    when people claim Trump is an insurrectionist or engaged in rebellion, that is close to defamation per se
     
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    Completely disagree. It was an insurrection, and some courts have declared it as such. But it's also fair to say he hasn't been convicted of anything associated with it so far, so it depends on where the bar is. Defamation would require a claim to be demonstrably false and damaging. This is not demonstrably false and may be demonstrably true but that hasn't been tested to a criminal conviction standard.

    As far as I understand SCOTUS ruled that congress must decide when it comes to eligibility issues. But that's not the same as deciding it requires a criminal conviction.
     
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    actually, accusing someone of a felony, when the accuser knows that the person has not been convicted of said felony, is defamation per se
     
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    Per se as in "inherently harmful?" Yes. Likely to successfully sue for defamation? No. This lawyer explains why (using the officers shooting Ms. Taylor being called murderer as an example):

    "In public figure, public matter defamation cases, the plaintiff typically must prove that the alleged defamer intentionally made false statements or made those statements with reckless disregard for the truth. "

    Killer! Murderer! Defamation? (atrlawfirm.com)
     
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    . I have to wonder \in the six months or so to the election some of those "I'd never vote for Trump" types will calm down and reassess their vote.
     
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    I can't believe that there aren't people who would prefer a Democrat but can't find themselves voting for more of this Biden Administration.
     
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    Just the fact that you are capable of watching ANY liberal media coverage of ANYTHING makes you a better man than I. ;)

    This I agree with as well, but only because many of her "supporters" are actually liberals who have always from the very beginning planned on voting for [insert Democrat nominee here] in the general. Yes, there's also a group of people who are Republican "never Trumpers" who will vote for a "third party" candidate or sit it out if Trump is the nominee, but this group of people isn't very large in the grand scheme of things. With that said, there's still a sizeable group of Republicans within her support bubble who simply preferred an option other than Trump ("his baggage", "his pompous attitude", etc etc) but will still "come home" to Trump come November.

    I would agree, in a general sense, that Trump is definitely "weaker" with suburban voters, but I wouldn't specifically use the words "has lots of work to do". Trump still wins with those voters; he just doesn't win them by quite as large of a margin as Republicans have historically won them by.

    I believe this fact to not be a very big deal at all, but only specifically in Trump's/MAGA's case, because Trump replaces those suburban losses "tenfold" with large gains in not only the rural areas, but also (and more importantly) in urban areas.

    Trump, over the years, has formed a very unique and diverse "rural & urban" coalition of voters that Democrats might not even be able to overcome with election fraud. His current gains among Hispanic and Black voters are VERY significant to the point that Democrats are even freaking out about it. He is likely to receive over 20% of the Black vote and might even win a thin majority of the Hispanic vote (if not, then just shy of it). Without Trump/MAGA, Republicans perform much weaker in urban (and even rural) areas.

    Below I will put up two electoral college maps. The first one is my take on the current state of affairs with Trump/MAGA at the top of the ticket and the second one is my take on the current state of affairs with a "RINO" (or otherwise any "professionally Republican" candidate) on top of the ticket. (E.g. Mitt Romney, Nikki Haley, Mitch McConnell, Ron DeSantis, Ted Cruz, Dan Crenshaw, et al)

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    That's a HUUUUUUGE difference. I'd rather be battling it out for States like New Mexico and Minnesota (and winning WI, MI, and PA) instead of fighting just to hold onto Iowa, Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, and even freaking Texas (while having no shot at all in WI, MI, and PA).

    Yeah, there's some no-namers running against Biden... same as there was against Trump. Biden still might not even be the nominee, as the DNC could go a different route at the convention.

    Haley was completely irrelevant from the very beginning, and I'm glad that she's out. This (s)election cycle for me is "Trump or bust", whether hit with a bogus conviction or not. No other candidate is on the side of We The People to lead the fight against The Globalist Elite™. The closest would be RFK, but even he falls for the climate scam that The Globalist Elite™ are using for power/control purposes.
     
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    You're going to pretend as if most of those aforementioned Haley "supporters" aren't just liberals who have planned on casting their vote for [insert Democrat candidate here] since Day 1?

    This truth is self-evident when comparing results from "closed primary" states vs "open primary" states.
     
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