Archaeology 'Demonstrates the Reliability of the Bible,' Leading Archaeologist Says

Excellent post. I learned a lot about history from reading Michener. A favorite was the novel Hawaii which I read as a child and from which I learned how the Christian missionaries sent to Hawaii exploited the native people and had a destructive impact on their culture.

 

A circular logic fallacy is still a circular logic fallacy no matter how many times the words are repeated. The Bible is certainly not the inerrant "Word of God" -- much of it is proven false, e.g., the creation myth, Adam and Eve, for example.

No personal disrespect intended, but sometimes I think the repetition of unproven supernatural claims by Christians must be a form of virtue signaling to curry favor with an invisible man. That or an attempt ward off a deep seated doubt that an invisible man in the sky does not really exist.

 

He was actually the Grandfather of one of the subjects of this article.

 

God reveals Himself to different people in different ways. People who had no knowledge of ancient Israel or of Christianity can still live by the light God has given them and Jesus blood on the cross covers them as well as the Israelite believer or the Christian believer. The light I mention is the info God has shown the individual and the person living according to it and following their conscience. No one who lives according to all they’ve been shown will be lost. It’s fairly simply really. Since the cross , the Bible is the best light shown to reveal the nature of God and what He expects of us. We are saved through grace by faith and as a believer we follow what Gods asks to please Him because we love Him, not in order to be saved by our works. It’s all about faith in the new covenant. People will believe by faith and be saved or they won’t and will not be. It’s that simple. People never exposed to the Bible and the Cross can be saved by following what they have had revealed to them. Once one knows of the Cross, Christianity, and the Bible and then rejects this greatest light have absolutely zero chance whatsoever of being saved in Heaven and gaining eternal life. Jesus was silent when his tormentors at his trial demanded signs and wonders so that they might believe. They had just recently witnessed Him raise a man from the dead. The irony is that the great deceiver in the last days will imitate Jesus and perform the very signs and wonders today’s skeptics demand…

 

Do we reckon our date and time by the advent of Michener's fictional heroes as we do the birth of Jesus Christ. The testimonies of Jesus's followers are first hand for the sake of posterity. Not fictional, or based on research for the sake of money or popularity. In fact, they were all put to death for their testimonies and teaching Jesus's Gospel of repentance.

 

~ Humans have become the dumbest thing on planet earth. The evidence is all around us . Hopefully we did not start out this way .

 

Your first sentence is an argumentum ad populum fallacy.

The Gospels are anonymous hearsay. Hardly evidence of supernatural claims. What first hand account of Jesus do you claim to have?

People being willing to suffer death for a religion is not unique to followers of Jesus, nor is it proof of any supernatural claims.

 

Fact. God does not reveal himself to anybody in a way that can be demonstrated with empirical evidence.

 

How does the discovery of factual history before Christ was born have anything to do with the new convenant Christ was believed to bring and which your post is solely concerned?
I am still puzzled over why those who profess to be followers of Christ place such emphasis on the old Testament which Christ reset.

 

Amen, brother.

 

I think the answer is this. The Old Testament established "Origional Sin" due to Eve eating an apple at the direction of a talking snake. As a result all of her decendants are sentenced to eternal torture in a hell created by God and thus they need to be saved by Jesus who is God sacrificing himself to himself to save humans from himself. Without the old Testament there is no original sin and therefore, no need to be saved by Jesus.

 

The Bible talked about Dragons.
Therefor, we know there were Dragons.
The Game of Thrones talked about Dragons.

Therefor, bow before your Queen, Christians ...



Couldn't resist...

 

Think you set up a false dichotomy- there are other options ... for example .. consider the "Prime Directive" - or variations on that theme. .. a hands off approach.. like a scientist checking in on an experiment from time to time .. look at it but don't mess with progress ..

I also do not do the idea that God necessarily be "All Powerful" to be a God.. such that you could have one .. say gargantuan gaia thing .. but have other gods ... with lesser power.. scope .. omnipotence .. but still Gods compared to humans.

You have put a God constraint in place .. such that .. OK .. perhaps for that God might be the case but not for other cases .. with multiple gods .. multiple powers .. oh what fun it is to ride on a one horse open sleigh .. heh heh heh .. sing it with me ..

 

~ You are open minded , and that's always a good thing.

 

Jesus and his followers were real people, not fictional characters in a fictional book. Their testimonies were likewise authentic, as opposed to the multiple characters devised and developed for a story by one man/writer at his desk. You don't have to believe what they said. But you can't from that presume they said nothing and never existed like the many characters in a work of fiction which is written for entertainment. The authenticity of the New Testament is inherent in the words of the speakers, which resonate in ones heart, mind and conscience. It is not a mere story or concoction. And though it may not be suitable for the world or the worlds intentions. It is nevertheless a familiar call to many therein.

 

There is piecemeal evidence that Jesus existed at à time when wondering mystics were common.
What helped to cément his réputation is that those who remembered him could write and therefore embellish his story.

https://www.bbvaopenmind.com/en/sci...azareth-actually-exist-the-evidence-says-yes/

 

1, There was a Jesus and he had followers. So what?

2. There are no testimonies written by his direct followers. As pointed out the gospels are anonymous hearsay. Paul, who turned Jesus from a Jewish sect to a new religion never met Jesus and never hear him preach.

3. Claiming the authenticity is inherent based on how the words resonate is an appeal to emotion logical fallacy.

4. The Bible is a mere story. There was a lot of conflicting scripture when the Canon was created. Some scripture was determined to be part of the canon. Some was rejected. What criteria was used?

 

There is ample evidence the Bible is 100% true. Your denial is evidence you follow the father of lies

 

Lies or another point of view?
There is simply no evidence of "miracles" or "healing" any more than in the OT, à burning bush or Noah's Ark. Or any other impossibilités..
Be sure what you refer to as lies, are backed by ,""ample evidence".

 

That is the bottom line for several here.

 

But it isn't true!!

 

The Lord left one piece of undeniable evidence, shroud of Turin. Absolutely a miraculous piece of evidence.

 

Study to show yourself approved workmen

 

Debunked.
Please read my link where it is discussed.

The post I replied to said the Bible is 100% true.
So since Christians like using stuff from the OT which Christ was sent to reset as a convenant, I asked about OT as well as NT miracles.
There is zéro evidence for burning bushes or an ark full of thousands of animals anymore than water becoming wine (without some behind the scènes barter with a wine merchant) or healing the blind .
No evidence whatsoever.

 

The shroud of Turin is by no means been debunked You need to update your study of the science analysis of a shroud. Do not be deceived by the devil.