Archaeology 'Demonstrates the Reliability of the Bible,' Leading Archaeologist Says

are we not all God's children per the bible? Which are his people?

 

Sigh

Why do you equate à piece of cloth dated between75 AD and around 1350 AD as proof of anything?
Dead people were wrapped in a shroud.
It could be anyone.

 

"Turin - Father of Lies" My Goodness . such nasty accusations. who is the one spewing out lies now children ?

We know the Bible is not "100% True" - unless we are to Label God a trickster and an idiot - and we don't want to do that now do we ?

We have different authors telling the same story - but telling it different ways. Later redactors putting all the old manuscripts together for the OT in the 5th century BC .. keep both . even though they say different things .. so the Authors themselves know the Bible is not 100% true .. and there are hundreds of instances of this .. Simple things like Joe goes to town X and sets up a sacrifice where in the other version he goes to town Y. The Tribes of Israel are listed as 12 in one place .. 13 in another.

So which is 100% true Todd .. are there 12 Tribes of Israel or 13 ?

Even if the Shroud of Turin was evidence for Jesus .. does not make it evidence for everything in the Bible.. who is the deceiver that claims otherwise ?

 

Be careful when you introduce the devil.
He or she is famous for double bluff and actually telling you the truth which the D. knows you won't believe, and therefore being deceived as the D wants.
Read Milton.

 

Father of lies? lol Would he be yet another invisible man -- this one living underground rather than up in the sky some place?

The Bible creation story starts out with mythology. All fields of science provide overwhelming evidence that the Adam and Eve creation story is absurd Denial of this truth is evidence of a suspension of critical thinking and brainwashing.


But you say there is, in your words, "ample evidence." So present this evidence for Adam and Eve, Noah's Arc, a talking snake, or an invisible man in the sky. And don't claim the Bible is evidence for the Bible.

 

SIGH.. Ok you do not want the truth.. so sorry, I'll pray you have a change of heart

shroud of turin latest - YouTube pick one.. educate yourself.. your statement is ignorance..and that's not good. here's the first and it is short. New Peer Reviewed Date for the Shroud of Turin - YouTube

 

Just trying to warn y'all!

 

Perhaps you could explain how à faith so based on love is so full of threats.
ISTM if one wants to believe or not is not through à threat but through some free conviction.

 

I don't do youtube. You can post anything you l8ke with no credible sources.

You have skipped my point. If it dates from that time, you can't know if the shroud was that of Christ's since we have no DNA of Christ to compare it to.
Dont be so eager to believe that you miss the obvious lack of proof.

 

No Brother Todd it is who need be warned .. you who is running from the Truth .. running down the path of denial and self deception which leads to nowhere good ... trying to replace the teachings of Jesus with the man made dogma of the demon Martin Luther.

 

So who needs more party political aggro in one's life??
No thanks.

 

Crazy people who hear voices may also hear real voices and notice or hear about things happening around them. That's no miracle.

 

What nonsense. Most people agree that theft, rape and murder are wrong. They know it by the light of conscience. Conscience can't be proven or verified. But it is self proving. So its fruits or values are lifted into law. It is not a logical fallacy or appeal to emotion. It is a declaration of values from a civilized people who love the truth. Mock it all you want. It nevertheless is so.

I'm a real person. I live. And I tell you that God is real, he lives and is divine. I know it by his spirit which he sent to awaken me to a remembrance of him. You call it supernatural as if it held no validity. But who are you. You are a mortal creature living in a dream. You are ruled by the blitz of mortal senses, steeped in tradition and the collective of the world. It is all you know which is nothing to crow about. So who are you to speak of what you don't know outside the walls of your prison? Nevertheless, I add my testimony in spirit and in support of Jesus's Disciples and Jesus Christs Gospel of repentance and salvation.

 

So what. There is zero evidence that the light of conscience is real. But by it and upon it we build civilization, despite those who pay it no heed.

 

Getting something right about history doesn't make the Bible "reliable." If that were the case, then getting even one major thing wrong (which it does often, see for example the global flood) would make it unreliable.

 

ok this is not u tube...

Home - Associates for Biblical Research (biblearchaeology.org)

 

You still skipped my principal point about the Shroud.

 

There were many civilisations outside Christianity. And still are.

 

The awareness of right and wrong was present in living expérience from before life became homo sapiens. Higher animals know right and wrong, form sophisticated family bonds and responsibilities.
Animals reject theft, murder etc because they eventually destroy their security as a species as do human beings. There is no form of life which destroys itself for no reason other than self préservation. Ants and bees live à better coopérative life than humans do. Nor do they deliberately destroy their own environment.
So ISTM that christianity is nothing to do with some relationship with god. What it is, is an opportunistic human device to exert power over others by declaring they are the voice of some god speaking to humans. And they cément their power by threats, such as those posted here today.
Which is why I asked why it needs threats to try to convert the unbeliever.
The device of using à supernatural création as your inspiration and hence path to power was used by the Delphic oracle and well before that in nearly every society in the world. Millions of murders have not been prevented but practiced because of religion.
Hundreds of thousands of children have been abused by representatives of Christ. Great abbeys and houses have been destroyed by religion. Wars have been fought over religion. Rape, scorched earth and incest have been practised in the name of christianity.
So forgive me if I don't recognise your salvation. AFAIAC the world would have and could be a far better place without it.

 

Just to add, much of the carnage donz by the cheistian faith was done because d3ctq within it squabbled between each other about who was the true believer. Only today I have seen criticism about Martin Luther . Is this the peace between men that christ represented?
If Christians have fought each other often to death, why should anyone believe à word they say?

 

Maybe one day archaeologists will find the remains of the White House and then declare all the events of the movie Independence Day are true.

oh wait, that would mean they weren’t really archaeologists.

 

Dies this archeological find mean that snakes talk and there is a canopy of water over the earth?

 

you skipped the documentaries..they would have explained that this was a one time event dating placed back to Jerusalem about 2000 years ago...... so I guess we are even.

 

No. The fact that there is a shroud proves nothing. There is nothing about it that distinguishes it from the thousands that wrapped their dead in.
It is the same false reasoning as saying because certain archeological évents were recorded that the Bible is "real".

 

Went thru this with the people that deny the election was stolen in 2020.. they just flat refuse to examine the evidence...


I've made my statements on this thread, you've heard the truth.. endlessly denying it is not going to change the truth

so how's th eweather there?