Are Donald Trump/Joe Biden too old for the presidency?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Reasonablerob, Jan 24, 2024.

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Is ____ too old?

  1. Biden

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    21.4%
  2. Trump

    1 vote(s)
    3.6%
  3. Both

    15 vote(s)
    53.6%
  4. Neither

    6 vote(s)
    21.4%
  1. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    For me, both, Biden is obviously senile and Trump is beginning to seriously slip up in public, the job needs some seriously new blood.
     
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    I agree with you 100%, but the sucky primary system is going to stick with these two old codgers who need to retire (Trump) or go the rest home or memory care unit (Biden).

    I am almost 75 so don't accuse me of "ageism."
     
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    100%. It's like the Boomer generation hasn't screwed up America enough. They need one more coup de gras before they take their dirt naps.
     
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    Trump is starting to make the same cognitive mistakes that Biden is so if you're a person who thinks Biden is too old, you've pretty much got to say the same about Trump.

    But folks won't. The left will ignore Biden's decline and the MAGA crowd will ignore Trump's, but not without each criticizing the other side about the mental state of their candidate, with the hypocrisy going completely over their heads.
     
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    Agreed. Biden needs to go to a nursing home, and Trump needs to go to Mar-a-Lago and play golf for the rest of his life. The same insiders who have been running nearly everything since the onset of the "Great Recession" in 2007 will go right on running the entire country anyway, so, why have these geezers out there at all?

    Disclaimer: I'm a 'senior citizen' and I still say that neither Biden nor Trump should be in the White House at all. :oldman:
     
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    I would prefer someone younger. Biden is seriously declining mentally and physically. Trump is a little better right now, but he will probably be as bad as Joe is now by the time he reached the end of a second term. Right now, I think the likely prospects of a President Kamala will play more heavily in November than anybody is talking about today.
     
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    Biden has slowed down a LOT. Not sure if he is senile. Not sure if it affects his judgment.

    I think Trump went downhill a lot earlier in life. In terms of personality changes. Biden has mellowed. Trump has become more bitter and twisted.
     
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    They're both too old for me. Biden was showing serious signs of cognitive decline when he ran four years ago, but a lot of people pretended it wasn't real because they hated Trump.

    The way I look at is I try to think of all the 80 years in my life and then ask myself if any one of them could run our country. The answer is no. Biden looks like he needs help wiping his butt half the time. Trump's current mental faculties are better than Biden's were four years ago, but it's not something I'd roll the dice on if he were a candidate that I'd consider voting for. My ideal age would be 45-55 at the start of their presidency.
     
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    both are too old, crazy these are our choices

    both of these elderly old men are showing age related decline imo
     
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    You only think Biden has mellowed. That because they keep him under wraps. Word has it he lashes out at meetings just like many dementia patients do when they are crossed.

    Trump is getting to be almost as bad. He's always been nasty to those who don't agree with him. That's one of the great flaws to his management style. He's a poor team builder.
     
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    I believe that only President Trump can finish what was began in 2017 to January of 2021......
    I believe that it will turn out to be a Sting operation.....

    and... I suspect that whether he comprehended it or not......

    Canada's P. M. Justin Trudeau may have been taking advice from a high level member of CSIS who may be a member of Canada's Liberal Party......

    but.... secretly he may be a major league supporter of Canada's alliance with the USA?????

    Are many of Joe Biden's troubles P. M. Justin Trudeau's fault?
     
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    It’s high past time for a fresh, new, younger face. These two old foggies need to get out of Dodge or D.C.
     
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    So 90% of people think both candidates are too old? Yet they can't find anyone to replace them?
     
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    Oh yes, YOU have arrived. Your generation will take us to higher levels.....once you learn which restroom to use.
     
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    Age really has nothing to do with it. It's all mental acuity. Trump has the energy of a 50 year old. He can easily speak off prompter for over an hour.Biden can't do that for 5 minutes. People just want to lump him in with the old man because of TDS.
     
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    I think that Biden is too old... but President Trump is not..... Trump's courage to tackle difficult situations is worth even more than an extra fifty IQ points... in my opinion.

    But... Trump's IQ has been calculated at around 156... so he has brain power to burn......... Biden DOES NOT!!!!!


    Is President Trump's IQ around 156?


    In retrospect... it now is obvious that NOT picking Romney for Secretary of State was the Genius Move!!!


    By the way... it seems obvious to me that President Trump used a Grade five vocabulary so that his opponents would mis-underestimate him...... and...... he would get along better with the Blue Collar workers who make him a lot of money at all of his Hotels and Resorts..... [and of course who vote for him]!!!!

    .....
     
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    Gerontophilia buried the USSR, gerontophilia could bury the USA.
     
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    I voted "neither". The problem isn't with age.

    One problem is that Biden is senile. Another problem is that certain people (such as Biden) corruptly make a career out of politics.

    (This gets into the existence of the Uniparty and how Democrats want money to get power and Republicans want power to get money)
     
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    You will get that change in 2028. House and senate are beginning now. There is a new generation coming in. (New generation probably about the same as the old generation)
    Trumps job is easy: increase oil production. Since fossil fuels are a component in everything that moves and is in many products, immediate input costs go down.
    The harder part is settling Ukraine when neither side wants to settle.
    China - convincing Mexico to keep Chinese BYD factories out of Mexico for our benefit.
    They will flat out kill us because they subsidize their industries which is unfair.
    https://motowheeler.com/us/electric-cars/byd/
    Iran? Put the oil squeeze back on them Biden removed.
     
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    Trump could probably end the Ukraine war in a day but would do so under the threat of impeachment. The uni-party wants this war. If they didn't, Ukraine would have accepted a peace agreement that would include not letting NATO put nukes on Russia's border.
     
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    In 1985, the Brezhnev Politburo had a median age of only 70.

    Brezhnev died at 75, Andropov at 69, and Chernenko at 73.

    The USSR's geriatric leadership were relatively young compared with our current presidential front runners and quite a lot of the US Senators.
     
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    There is too much at stake to allow someone we are 'not sure' about to serve in the most stressful, important, and potentially catastrophic job on the planet. Get rid of them both.
     
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    So if someone invaded part of the USA you would accept a peace agreement which would leave them in place?
     
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    Depends on a lot. Ukraine sure should have accepted a peace offer made by the Russian before they'd lost 1/2 a million citizens. As a people, there's nothing in this for them.
     
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    Biden is in his 80s. Trump is in his 70s. If you want to go by age, Trump is your choice.

    Just for fun, I looked up the life expectancy of men in the USA, and it looks like the lifespan is about 73 years (What Is the Average Life Expectancy of U.S. Males? (verywellhealth.com)). Strangely, I thought it was 78, which would fit within the 70-80 years from my childhood. I guess it's going down.
     
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