Are Jews "Chosen" ? Chosen by who ?

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  1. gypzy

    gypzy New Member

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    Actually, I'd say it is you who is confused, more likely attempting to confuse.

    The questions posed were thus: Are Jews Chosen? Chosen by who?

    Long before Israelites arrived in the promised land - they were chosen. Chosen for what?
    Chosen by God to deliver first his Will to the the Jewish people and then to deliver a prophet to the world.

    As a matter of religion, there is no confusion, the two questions asked are answered simply.
    All other historical and political issues follow and are secondary to that.
     
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    Inbreeding ? Hahaha ! you've really got it - bad. so-called "Jews" especially AshNazis , are probably one of the world's best/worse examples of - "inbreeding " hence hereditory diseases like Ta-Sachs , Gauchers + Blooms disease etc,etc,

    btw ancient biblical/mythical "Israel" was "wiped " mainly due to internal disputes .civil wars/ conflicts .

    Fekking Jews always try blaming others for their own c- ockups.
     
  3. Liebe

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    Didn't you only object to zionism? Your bigotry is showing Marlowe.
     
  4. Marlowe

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    BS - there's no fekking god , and IF - If I should by some miracle meet him , I'll tell him what a fekking lot of lying swines he's created.

    Meanwhil stop trying to justify Jewish zionists crimes by invoking reference to some fekking diety . It's crap and those who know better are not fooled.

    btw Its almost time I made a wish list for Santa Clause - I got everything I asked for , last Christmas.


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  5. Marlowe

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    Thank you for noticing . HAHAHAHA.

    I bet it wont be long now , when you call me an "anti-Shemite /cum - Anti-Hamite - all round good for nothing English Imperialist SOB, from Stormfront - and report me to the MOD .

    "sticks and stones , Old darlin, sticks and stones. .......

    Meawhile, see if you can post anything informative , or perhaps even half-intelligent.



    :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:
     
  6. Liebe

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    No need to worry old boy. Anti-semitism is not a problem on the PF. No need to worry. :mrgreen: In fact, you are in good company.

    I do wonder why you like to use the expression sticks and stones so often. I have no need to call you names (you should have noticed that I avoid personal insults for they are the sign of a discussion lost). But you now admit to what I noticed and you confess, hoping I'll call you names? Is that your defence?
     
  7. Liebe

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    I see you edited to add something meaningful, informative or half-intelligent...:fart:

    Did you read up on the death penalty using my source?
     
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    God?

    Who told them 'god' chose them?

    Moses?

    Moses was born, raised, lived and learned within the house of pharoah. (per torah, per him, per se)

    Was pharoah the 'god' he was talking to?



    what a quack attack comment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


    truth supercedes any religion


    and i am already here to prove it.
     
  9. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    And you'll be one of those that God will categorize amongst the liars.

    Be it religious or political point of view the Zion were instrumental in restoring the land and nation of Israel, if there is any crimes committed it is those Islamist who from the very beginning up to this day refuse to accept and recognize the nation of Israel all because of the religion Islam that commands all Muslims to destroy Israel.

    Sadat of Egypt and Jordan finally distant themselves from all this Islamic-politics and did the logical and practical thing they sign a peace treaty with Israel, Israel stay on their side of the border so did Jordan and Egypt. The solution is very simple but, the Islamist refused to do the practical thing and that is live in peace. They're not interested with the Palestinian issue they're main objective is destruction of Israel the Palestinians are just pawns to them especially since the PA tends to be secular in nature.

    Too early for Christmas, you need to put in your scary custom first and then offer your thanks either to God or to your ancestors for giving you a good life.
     
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    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Moses just reminded them about the covenant God made with their forefather Abraham and that God send Moses to help full fill that promise but first they have to free themselves from Egypt and travel to the promise land.

    So you know the history then, good.

    Nope, Pharaoh was a man-god, Moses left the house of Pharaoh and rediscover his identity and mission when God spoke to Moses, in other words it was the God of Noah, God of Abraham that spoke with Moses.



    That is why the Bible is setting the record straight so that the truth can be accepted, so far you have not proven anything untruthful about the Bible that the Jews were the chosen people and that God chose them.
     
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    I think that "self- choosinesses" and "self- worshipping" are symptoms of a mental illness, called pathological Narcissism.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism
     
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    Khazars were not chosen by any God, dude!

    :D

    They converted to Judaism only in the 10th century AD!
     
  14. gypzy

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    Wait a minute...there were two questions posed. I answered those questions according to their religious origins.

    You didn't ask, and I didn't say, anything about being a believer myself.

    Does religion incite you to the point where you are unable to refrain from assumptions and insults? sorry for ya.
     
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    I think the Jews have anti-semantic problems.

    When they say "chosen", it actually translates from Yiddish as "choice".

    As in : ripe for the picking.
     
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    What is the Yiddish word that translates chosen as choice?
     
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    Irrelevant, archaic and anachronistic. That's the bible-the biggest crock of divisive crap ever foisted on the world.
     
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    There's no such bloody thing as 'satan'. Except in bad Hollywood movies.
     
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    Marlowe good luck with expecting christians to logically and rationally debate with you, they are too emotionally involved to see the error in the "chosen one" bs

    They have no historical basis as to why they are "chosen" its cause "god says so"
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    There is no 'god' except in the minds of the truly gullible, superstitious and unschooled. 'Gods' have been used as excuses and justification for everything since men first couldn't figure-out where the sun went at night. 'God' was hiding it...and they invented a super-being to explain everything. Then science came along and all they were left with was their ingrained superstition.
     
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    I know; it's like showing your dog a card trick...it kinda glazes-over and goes back to chewing its bone.
     
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    Wow!
    Jews say in their books that they are better than the rest of humanity, and that everybody has to love Jews!

    What a surprise!

    Why should enlightened peple care about such crap?


    Wow!

    Jews are rewarding each other and their friends!

    :D

    Do you have more proves of 'Jewish chosennes'.
     
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    Pharoah was god to Moses. Being born in egypt and living in the house of pharaoh is how that 'promise' was learned. ie..... pharoahs were special too

    The anhk is the symbol of the 'key' they are awaiting. The 'key' to everything.

    The jews, awaiting 'the name'. jesus didnt bring the name and why 'jews' dont accept jesus as messiah.

    Them fathers that were promised? The egyptians had the libraries of them lineages. Do slaves have lineages recorded on stone tablets or their iPhones?
    sent moses?

    Why not send jesus, first? Then ezekial, then paul, then abraham... ?

    god sends no one.

    people are born, they give, knowledge is recorded, people learn..... and the next layer furthers the evolution

    canaan was under egyptian rule during any and all exodus period.

    But there was a schism from the egyptain battery of gods to monotheism and a temple in the desert was created called Amarna.

    That divide practically ripped egypt apart.

    Moses only brought stone tablets down, with 10 commandments, per babble. He found while away, a statue of the egyptian god hathor (golden calf) was made. And he supposed killed 3000 followers over that. And that god (calf) is found in egypt and canaan (palestine/israel) as a diety.

    archeological history combined with many literary forms.

    Ya see, this is the modern age, we can read more than one book



    it is far more comprehensible to stick with the foundation that Pharoah was the 'god' moses was speaking too and learned from the libraries of egypt, than to believe moses learned all that material information to write genesis, exodus leviticus numbers and deuteronomy (pentateuch)...... then having some other god or even that slaves had that amount of knowledge for him to learn.

    the god of that initial story was enlil..... (sumarian flood story, in which god flooded the earth because mankind was 'noisy')
    that is where you drop the ball again......

    Moses learned about 'god' from pharoah.............. I could see how a thinking mind could realize that all his ancestors were seeking the 'same god'.

    you are being set straight, right now

    why do you think the 'unveiling' is so important?

    sure i have..................... the self chosen are what cause ww3 over that fight over 'the hill' (that little mount under the dome of the rock)

    it is why zionist wanted jeruselem in the first place.

    They NEED that hill to rebuild solomons temple.

    The problem is, it aint god writing the theology, nor moses (could you imagine how BIG a caravan would have to be to carry stone tablets covering the amount of information in torah?)

    The problem yu and i have is yu will not step back and learn (be set straight)
     
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