Are NYPD officers rushing to retire amid city’s anti-cop climate?

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  1. Condor060

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    Police don't prevent crimes? Since when? More police presence means less criminal activity. If that wasn't the case, why would black communities be asking for more police presence?
     
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    We have that law in WV. The critics said blood would flow in the streets when the law passed, but it didn't happen.
     
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    Elected sheriff's vs. appointed police chiefs make a big difference in how law is enforced.
     
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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-dont-mean-less-crime-experts-say/2818056002/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ng-police-hasnt-necessarily-meant-less-crime/

    It depends on the penalty and quality of policing but no, more officers does not necessarily correlate to less crime — especially rape, which is what is being discussed https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/248888.pdf
     
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    Sorry, but thats all political BS. More cops on duty has always provided less crime. I don't care how many websites you dig up to claim it doesn't.

    More law enforcement patrols in areas have always correlated to less criminal activity. Thats why commercial businesses pay for more officers for events.
    Don't be ridiculous.
     
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    Just out of curiosity, where in WV. My family grew up in Pineville.
     
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    Jefferson County.
     
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    All part of the plan!

    Dismantle things via carefully engineered propaganda, until cities become true ghettos ... housing only the ultra wealthy (way up in their privately secured penthouses) and the poorest. The Man wants all the darkies herded together and killing each other, and thoroughly reliant on The Man. It's disempowerment via fostered fear and super-dependence. It's so freaking obvious a child could see it.
     
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    It reduces visible crimes, rape is not one of these unfortunately.
    I appreciate your sources, data, nuance and not just falling back on feelings.
     
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    Not sure where that is. Pineville is Wyoming County. My Uncle was the president of Castle Rock bank and my grandmother was the mayor. lol
    I visited Pineville about 5 years ago and NOTHING had changed from 25 years ago. It was weird.
     
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    You wouldn't know that on these boards. lol But I believe every word.
     
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    Common man. Its just common sense. All you have to do is look at NYC for rape percentages over the last year with the mass exodus of over 5300 NYC officers. Its now the highest ever in the cities history. Up 120% in march of last year and up 322% march of this year. Less cops, more criminals.
     
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    Crime is up all around the nation, not just in areas that have shed police officers.Even my very conservative mid size city has seen increases in many areas (although not to the extent of NYC).
     
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    Seems like common sense that it would. Data also seems to back up that assumption.
    https://www.princeton.edu/~smello/papers/cops.pdf
     
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    I think it has more to do with of being away from any big city.
     
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    Leftists aren’t going to like the results of their insane policy once it becomes very undesirable to live in a city anymore. No way to blame Republicans. That’s all on the Ds.

    The problem is. The smart hypocritical Leftists will move away the second it becomes too dangerous and will infest Republican areas to regain their safety. Already happening with a vast exodus from CA and NYC to mostly red states they’re trying to turn purple. Hypocrites, ALL of them.
     
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    I'm not counting on this having a major effect on the midterms at all.

    The "progressive" idiots in the cities where this is happening are anti-police and the majority of the voters around them are going to keep electing Democratik city officials who kowtow to those "progressive" idiots.

    About the only things that we can count on is that cops will keep retiring and moving out of shitholes like New York in droves, leaving their departments less experienced as a result, and the younger cops who do remain are going to grow increasingly unwilling to engage criminals. Knowing this, criminals are going to become more active and more aggressive. Those problems will be compounded by the ongoing issue of prosecutors and judges who won't keep those criminals off the streets.

    Crime will rise, but I'm not convinced it will rise enough by next Fall to effect swing voters, because I know it's not going to effect the votes of anti-cop "progressives" and their fellow Leftists who will keep voting Demokrat no matter how bad things get.

    The only places where all of this is going to have an impact - and I'm not sure it will happen by next Fall - is where the rising crime spills into the adjacent counties that are still swing districts.

    On the flip side, after this metastasizes for a few years I can see where it could effect the 2024 elections. Until then, I'm just going to sit back and continue to watch our cities burn...
     
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    And then they'll vote for the same policies all over again. Not knowing(or maybe intentionally knowing) that it was those policies that had the outcome. Either they're cynically diabolical or just maddeningly incompetent.
     
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    Yes. It’s a big problem and it’s both. It’s diabolical insanity and mental illness to destroy an area you live through policy, move and do it again expecting a different result. These people are dangerous.
     
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    PROOF?

    Yeah, I thought so. NONE!
     
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    We can use another Conservative here in Colorado. Give it a serious thought, too :D
     
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    Jefferson County is in the panhandle, I am along the Potomac River not that far from Harpers Ferry. I wish I could say nothing has changed here. but growth, housing prices, and traffic are way up.
     
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    Well thats good to hear. Don't get me wrong, I didn't mean to try and insult Pineville. But its like walking back in time. It was a magical place for me as a kid visiting my grandmother during the winter. I even went to elementary school there for a while.

    I took my kids there 5 years ago just to take a look and it was like we went through a time warp. Its not like its dirty or run down. Just all the original stores, homes, streets, and even the people.
    Not to mention its the county seat of Wyoming Co,
     
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    I have a Relative that lives in Richwood WV which I feel is sort of a time warp so I know what you mean.

    The Panhandle part of WV is being invaded by swarms of people. I used to shoot guns in my back yard, but no more as it is too populated.
     

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