Are NYPD officers rushing to retire amid city’s anti-cop climate?

And they will have to lower standards to keep up numbers which will be a disaster.

Yes it will, no one will want to be a cop and you'll have to scrape the barrel.

 

nope, bad cops need to go, no one should want them on the force

 

Arming the coeds would be an even better deterrent.

 

Ironically even the birth rate is way down during covid.... I expected that to go up

but maybe that means less drunk hookups that result in pregnancy

 

also crime is down during covid, though gun sales and shootings are up

"Crime Has Declined Overall During The Pandemic, But Shootings And Killings Are Up"

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/20/8924...he-pandemic-but-shootings-and-killings-are-up

"Baltimore, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Washington, D.C., and Chicago all have witnessed a drop of more than 30%. Violent crimes such as aggravated assaults and robberies also fell substantially."

 

It didn't happen the last time the police needed lost of recruits. In fact, the result was a more proportionate representation of NY's ethnicity AND a drop in crime.
Just look at the ethnicity of the NYPD rank and file between 1988 and 2019.

No recruitment standards have been lowered, so rob is just making stuff up.

 

These are not bad cops, these are men with experience, you're going to be forced to rely upon a force of rookies.

But they'll have to be. Or pay boosted?

 

They are already having a hard time recruiting rookies.

 

I am talking about bad cops... we need to weed out bad cops, replace them with good cops that want to do the job

 

These aren't bad cops, these are good cops who are scared of making an honest mistake and find themselves in prison due to political pressure. Of course they're resigning in vast numbers and who will replace them? It will be like McNamara's morons, departments will be forced to scrape the bottom of the barrel to make up the numbers. You'll have no experience and those who do stay won't be the aggressive thief takers every force needs, who would dream of doing a stop and search or traffic stop these days?

 

we were talking about bad cops

 

Without limited personal immunity for negligent errors only fools will serve as police officers.

 

only bad cops would have to fear - good cops would be fine

 

LOL! "Only" bad people make mistakes?
Well, the I suppose "only" you can be a cop.

 

how many "mistakes" people make at work where they accidentally beat or kill a man in handcuffs

no one is talking honest 'mistakes' here

 

Not true. We are talking about mistakes - not crimes.
Police officers have never had immunity for criminal behavior. Surely you know that.

 

sadly police pretty much get away with anything bad they do.... but that seems to be changing

I would have more respect for a cop that tried to deescalate and then the suspect escalated the situation, then a cop that tries to escalate a situation for no reason and it goes bad

 

Well, IMO, Chauvin was undercharged.

There has certainly been a bias in favor of the police over felons who have accused them of brutality. A public that depends almost exclusively on armed police to keep the peace will always be reluctant to come down hard on police officers over their treatment of felons. Video evidence of brutality has made it much easier to prosecute officers.

 

I agree, video evidence is what is causing change

 

No we're not, we're talking about good men who could find themselves pilloried after making righteous calls and honest mistakes.

 

no, we were very specifically talking about "bad cops"

 

But that’s not true when the topic is qualified immunity. Qualified immunity only protects a cop who is doing his job like he’s been trained to do but it results in the injury of the suspect. IE the cop gets assaulted and in the process of taking the suspect to the ground he accidentally hits his head on the car and has brain damage. He can’t then sue the cop civilly for damages. But this doesn’t protect a cop who commits a crime in the discharge of his duties.

I promise you, get rid of qualified immunity and your police force will certainly look much different but not in the way you desire.

 

I made it clear in my posts I was talking about bad cops

"in the process of taking the suspect to the ground he accidentally hits his head on the car and has brain damage."

that doesn't make one a bad cop, unless it's intentional, if every person that cop arrests hits his head, it's probably not accidental, at that point it should not be protected

 

No we're not, your idea of a bad cop is one who makes an honest mistake in the most trying of circumstances, you lack any empathy with them and it's appalling.

 

no, your idea of a good cop is ones that intentionally escalates a situation for the fun of it and innocent people die - you lack any empathy with them and it's appalling. (see, we can both make up what the other believes)

be reasonable next time Rob and not make up what I think