Are teachers willing to carry guns in schools? 18% say yes

A number of schools allow their teachers to carry a gun - how many times has it happened?

 

LOL a number of schools allow teachers to carry is your claim and due to that claim arming thousands of teachers nationwide is a safe thing to do?????

In the news within the last few months,a teacher with a gun have it accidental discharge and put a hole into the classroom wall but thankfully not into a student.

Once more it will just be a matter of time and not a very long time either in my opinion before an innocent child is wounded or killed by an arm teacher.

Home schooling seems call for if we are going to be arming teachers by the thousands.

 

About 1000 times better than the odds of a SWAT team coming from across town. Even then, if they just prevent 1 death by saving #13, isn't that worth it?

 

The data is available on the AUS ABS site. Its clear as day and shows the huge increase in violent crime in AUS starting in 1996 when the gun ban was initiated. Whether you don't like it, or refuse to admit it, does not change the data and the truth.

 

https://www.citylab.com/equity/2015/10/where-guns-are-allowed-on-campus/412708/

The map above, from ArmedCampuses.org, shows the campus gun policies for all 50 states. Nine states—Idaho, Utah, Colorado, Oregon, Kansas, Arkansas, Wisconsin, Mississippi, and Texas (starting in 2016)—allow for campus carry. Nine more only allow concealed guns in parking lots and locked cars. Another 21 states defer to schools and universities themselves to permit or deny guns on campus: Schools including the University of Colorado at Boulder, University of Oregon, and Idaho State University, for instance, have chosen to allow guns, albeit with some restrictions. Only 11 states have outright prohibitions on carrying handguns on campus.

 

We are not talking about a few teachers privately carrying in a few schools we are talking about fulling up the majority of schools with teachers carrying firearms nationwide during school hours. Thousands of added firearms.

Good luck in not having ongoing gun handling accidents and misjudgments from those teachers who think of themselves as john Wayne.

Home schooling and bullet proof back packs and so on is in the future of our children as after all we do not wish to do anything that the NRA would not be happy over such as limiting the sizes of magazines as you can never know when you will need to have a hundred rounds in your rifle during hunting trips or visit to the gun range or even when some kids are toilet papering your house on Halloween.

Oh yes we must allow teenagers who can not legally buy a can of beer at the 7/11 store to buy such rifles at the gun shop next door to to the 7/11 at least that is the NRA position.

 

They don't have to be carried. I'd prefer a strongbox with a two step lock - unlocked centrally and by a teacher's handprint.

 

You mean legal adults who can vote, get married, enter into contracts and serve in the military. Those people.

 

An if the firearms are lock up with an alarm system then the teachers are not going to be the one maintaining them or taking them to the gun ranges an such so if and when the **** hit the fan they are going to be opening boxes with a firearm that they themselves have no idea if it been taken care of recently with very limited gun range times with the firearm.

Sorry but without hours on the gun range with the gun and under the emotional stress of an active shooter the results are going to be pitiful and that is not even consider that the weapons in the boxes are unlikely to be a match for someone with an assault rifle.

 

Voting or marrying even at the very worst is not putting any lives at risk drinking alcohol or owing a powerful firearm can put dozens of lives at risk.

 

Buy Glocks. Works first time every time. There's no maintenance required.

An unarmed person can simply point to the "No Guns Allowed" signs. And most school shootings are with handguns.

 

Many inane statements.

Obviously you know very little about firearms.
I personally have spent way too much time using firearms and am certified as an Instructor with years as various Range functions.

Police Officers are often successful against assailants with only their sidearms.

Remember that semiautomatic rifles, often misnamed "Assault Weapons" by the media, account for a very small percentage of homicides in the U.S. concealable handguns account for the rest.

 

Yes, maintenance is required with all firearms for continued reliable performance, I currently have a Gen 4 Glock 17....

They said that about the M-16 once too, no maintenance required, and we see how that worked out, rather poorly...

 

We let kids drive cars at 16. How many can be killed with a high speed run into a crowd?

 

The mass murders are from rifles except in one case.

An no repeat no semi-auto firearm does not need care for smooth operation.

If you wish for a self defense gun that will work every time get a good revolver not a semi.

Even my top of the line 45 combat commander would jam and shovepipe in the middle off my range time however my 357 SM revolver work every damn time.

 

That what volunteer Saturdays are for.

 

Most mass murders at schools and public places are done mainly with assault rifles not hand guns and we been talking about mass murders of children in schools and such not murders on the whole.

Next no I do not know anything about guns after all I only been going to ranges and owing firearms for fifty years or so.

I assume that police officers will have more skill then armed teachers for the most parts, however after watching a large number of police officers shooting at the local county range where police officers get to used the range for free I am not so sure of even the police officers who take the time to shoot at ranges skill levels.

My own theory is too many of them now that they are no longer carrying revolvers but high capacity autos instead are counting on spraying and praying to save their asses not their shooting skills.

 

All silly statements.

Just because you are 70 or 80 years old does not automatically grant you knowledge of firearms.

Your Revolver statement is proof enough.

A firearm jams due to lack of maintenance or parts wear or failure, I spent over 10 years learning gunsmithing and firearms maintenance.

I have used many modern firearms and they are reliable if maintained cleaned and lubricated properly.

Glocks are lubricated with a proprietary factory lubricant.

 

How many kids have been accidentally or mistakenly shot in the schools that allow teachers to carry?
How does this number support your positon?

 

Mother Jones disagrees with you.
The 346 total deaths by 'assault weapons' in mass shootings 1982-2017 represents 44.76% of total deaths in mass shootings. The most common weapon? Handguns, at 51.35%
Feel free to visit the link in my signature.

 

Wrong.
We're talking about allowing teachers/administration/staff who are of a mind to do so and who are legally able to carry a concealed handgun to do so while at work.
You argue a strawman.

Given the 13-15,000,000 people already carrying a concealed handgun, how often does this happen?

When the shooter is the only person in the building with a gun, why do you think a magazine size limit will matter?
When -has- it mattered?
Why do you believe a ban on new standard-capacity magazines will remove access to existing standard-capacity magazines?

Wait.... you're one of those pople who think the RKBA is about hunting?

Until last month, no one thought to argue otherwise.
But hey -- if you need to be 21 to buy a handgun or rifle - that is, exercise you right to keep and bear arms at the basic level - you should need to be 21 to vote.

 

Footnote I am the opinion that when the FBI go

LOL once more even my colt combat commander who is basely a lighter version of the 1911 colt military 45 one of the most reliable semi hand guns ever product would jam from time to time but my SM model 19 revolver had not fail to function one time in thirty years or so.

 

Trump said he would pay teachers more that carried a gun, so I suppose some would carry just to get a bigger paycheck

course we have already had one example of a gun going off when a teacher pulled it out to show it off to students....

how about, they can carry, but has to be concealed at all times, and a huge fine if a student sees it

 

Yes -- an accidental discharge during a training session.
Happens to the best of us - including the people some liberals believe should be the only people allowed to have guns.

 

he should not of been waving the gun around in class, should of kept it in the holster unless needed