ARE WE ENTITLED TO AN HONORABLE CONGRESS?

If they do they will be even more likely to vote Trump, unless you mean the leftist mouthpieces of the alphabet soup media...

 

While that is true in the end it only reveals how hollow there philosophy is at its core. They cannot progress by preaching their own beliefs but only by demonizing others that is not a recipe for long term success but rather for ultimate collapse.

 

A fetus is alive it has a heart beat by the time the average abortion is performed that makes it alive. Get back to me when you have as good evidence that it is not. Your arguments about abortion are as usual self serving, u persuasive, and not infrequently pointlessly silly. But carry-on in your absurdity if it pleases you.

 

What will be needed is a large enough majority of public support to convince a majority of legislators that their political survival may depend on the passage of the bill. The level ideally would be 2/3 or better, but it also depends on the general trending. Members of congress rarely listen to any of their constituents except those with big money or other desirable benefits, but they do keep a running watch on popularity trends. When you call your congressmans office, you talk to an unimportant person who reads you boilerplate answers. But those people do record the preferences you make, kind of like a poll result. It also relates to news exposure and coverage. The greater the publicity, the greater the impact. Then it relates to the way the subject jades the view of the congressman. Even if there was not a majority of support for example, voting against what the people see as sacred gets you bad press- and lowers your chance of re-election. Many bills are killed in committees and never get to a vote- because congress does not want to have recorded votes on something that is going to be used against them later. This is so neutral politically, has benefits for everyone- including congress- that rejecting it will be hard to do safely. Lots of gaming and a fair amount of psychology involved. And of course- no guarantees, we know that very well. However, this is so important that we must try, regardless of the cost or chance of success.

 

Do you think the 4m teachers in the United States are spending their time creating lies to further their "political needs?" How come they're so poorly paid if they're political types.

Up yours. I've been in politics and always told the truth. I didn't defame anyone.

You think so?

Article III, Section 3, Clause 1: "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court."​

This is is for treason... "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort."

You sure as hell don't understand banking or business.

Limiting advertising and rallies has everything to do with free speech.

You definitely don't understand you can't change the law on treason without changing the Constitution, you don't understand banking or taxation, and you don't understand how SCOTUS has ruled on speech.

 

DEFLECTION
Nobody said anything about teachers
Try and keep up if you can

DEFELCTION
Nobody said anything about you defaming anyone
Try and keep up if you can

And you didn't know employers already withhold and pay employee taxes
Go figure

Money limits advertising and rallies. Is that a free speech issue? lol
Do all candidates get the same amount of money to advertise?
Wrong again.

 

Do you think the 4m teachers in the United States are spending their time creating lies to further their "political needs?" How come they're so poorly paid if they're political types.

Up yours. I've been in politics and always told the truth. I didn't defame anyone.

You think so?

Article III, Section 3, Clause 1: "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court."​

This is it for treason... "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort."

Without ensuring compliance, business and employees will get together to evade taxes, something that restaurants and wait staff have been doing forever with tips.

Limiting advertising and rallies has everything to do with free speech.

 

You trashed public employees and there are four million teachers working for the public school system. How are we supposed to know you carved out teachers as an exception?

Go figure you would make such an absurd claim.

 

I don't know how you're defining the word "democracy", but we don't live in one here in the US. We live in an oligarchy, with special interests controlling the government. The people DO NOT control the government, so it can't be a democracy.

 

FALSE

Its pretty obvious you can't keep up with the topic of conversation so your Teacher deflection isn't working.
Try again.
If you can

Says the guy associating teachers with political appointments and elected officials. lol[/QUOTE]

 

As I said , majority Americans are not buying what you are selling. Either GOP change the product they sell or they will be abolished.

Apparently, you are incapable of grasping the reality and you are in capable of change. Hold on to your theory and you will find yourself in Museum and history book.


You can write all you want that I don’t understand what conservatism is, but the fact is in last 40 years only one time majority Americans voted for conservative idea. Sadly, GOP can’t realize this simple truth.

 

May be you don’t know the facts, but here it is , States Receiving Most in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid to a RED State on the other hand States Receiving Least in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid are Blue State. It seems like Blue state are bailing out RED state every after year.

TaxProf Blog (typepad.com)


70% US economy comes from US Countries which vote Democrat.

Biden-voting counties equal 70% of America’s economy. What does this mean for the nation’s political-economic divide? (brookings.edu)

 

That has been debunked so often it isn't funny. By the time you adjust for the fact that our dude if naval bases the lions share if all military bases are in red states. And of course there are a hl of a lot of big blue cities in very red states Dallas, Austin, and Miami to name but three of many.

 

The number of people who are quick to tell you why you can't exists in everything. Simple fact of human nature; if you choose to believe it can't be done- you have insured you will not be able to do it.
I can make that choice on personal things, and I've done a lot of that "Can't be done". When it comes to convincing a society I can't control that, just do my best to make it so.

The big challenge here has been to figure out how this could be done- and myself and some others have worked on this as a project for almost 15 years. That was what we set out to do, and we have been successful. However- the world is full of people in poor circumstances because they failed to choose to be elsewhere. People want the easy way, and they like the idea that someone else will do it for them. If that wasn't a prevalent thing, we would have a much stronger and healthier society than we do. As the saying goes, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. Someone on PF added a line- you can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think. All they have to do here is solidly back the idea. We aren't soliciting money, we gain nothing- and pay our own bills. It's a free solution that has taken thousands of hours and dollars to find. If the people don't like it, then we just wasted all that, but it was our choice.

The philosophy that saw me through the toughest decisions of my life was that I was willing to bet my life- If I die, then I die- but I'm going anyway. There's nothing to lose here, and that is often the fact when people procrastinate their lives away, failing because they fear failure if they try. This time, I'm betting on the American people- but I'm going anyway. If we lose, they will be the big losers, that is already true. In my view, if something doesn't fix America soon, the consequences will last longer than the lifetimes of any person here today. I'm old, this isn't for me- it's for my great-grandchildren and your great-grandchildren. Everybody tomorrow depends on what we do today.

Not sure what you're looking for here. There is no plan B- we have been through a thousand what if ideas, and never found a winner until now. I believe the future of the nation and the people are on the line right now. It will be up to them- all I can do now is try to light the fire.

 

You'd might be surprised at how many teachers' kids are hired by school districts as teachers. My sister was a very popular teacher in her district and my niece was hired to work in the same school.

 

Problem is that our leash on the government is a rubber band instead of a leather strap.... makes control pretty difficult. That's what we're trying to fix.

 

It doesn't matter what they wish to buy. What matters is the truth. No matter how much pie in the sky you sell people still can't eat it. Several people have been quoted as saying that a Republic can only stand until the general public decides to vote itself money from the public purse, we must turn back from the unsustainable mantra of indolence at any price or become a satrap of some other country and eventually slaves.

 

Which has nothing to do with my post about holding political appointments and elected officials accountable.

 

Don't you get it? Teaching positions are sometimes a political appointment.

 

You can't endorse self-destructive philosophies and be a conservative.

Nature has rules that nobody can change. Delay sometimes, but not change.
There are millions of species alive today that have thrived for millions of years with no governments, no religions, none of the crap humans use trying to make themselves viable. What's more, those species have thrived without poisoning or trashing the planet or using up it's natural resources. Humans like to believe they are wise, but usually they people act stupidly and incompetently. We're like full of magnificent promise- but our creativity has made us so delusional we pay no attention to the rules that actually allow the rest of the planet's inhabitants to thrive. We know we are "smarter".

The contrast here clearly shows that of all living things, the species that has huge potential but can't understand how life works and can't manage itself - is us. Human beings have brought about massive changes with the current one being our rapid advances in technology- but in fact, the technology of our thinking hasn't changed much at all. A small percentage of our population is responsible for the most of of what we have gained- but the majority continues to make terrible decisions for itself and is wrong far more often than it is right. It's hardly surprising that they make stupid choices. That is the reality, and it's very clear you have no idea it's true. It's not that you couldn't learn, but that you choose not to, because you already think you know everything. Not much anyone an do about that.

We didn't get in the mess we are in because we all make good decisions. The right decisions in life are usually not the easy ones, they take courage. Dumb ones don't.
People making the right choices are invariably the minority

 

Fine. Live with your Truth. Rest of us moving on. We will visit your “truth” on the wall of Museum and tell our Grand-kids “ this is what happens to people who want to hold on to past”

 

Dead right!
Economics work the same way at any scale, but the consequences are slower or faster depending on size. Governments make no money- they only take it from the people.... and unfortunately these days they are taking it from citizens that won't be born for decades yet.

We have been creating debt for future generations for a long time, literally stealing the labors of our descendants to sustain the mindless spending of today.
It's one of the reasons we desperately need an honorable congress; one with the common sense to act responsibly at every level, to build a sustainable system instead of a parasitic one.
An honorable congress will prepare for the future- while what we have now worries only of the moment. Tomorrow is always right around the corner... and it is always the day we failed to prepare for yesterday.

 

It sound like you would rather take your idea and wait to die than change your idea. That’s fine, Dinosaur were extinct because they couldn’t adopt to new world, so shall conservatism.

 

You will have to disappoint those grand-kids, because you won't be able to afford to go the the museum with the form of government you seem to embrace.

The difference between conservatives and liberals is a lot like two drivers going down the highway.
The liberal is near-sighted and visually drives about 50 feet in front of his car- so everything that happens becomes a crisis, and in the reaction to the crisis he create more crisis. It never ends.

The conservative is on the same road, but his vision is normal. He visually drives about 500 feet in front of the car; sees problems well in advance and navigates around them. The worst become nuisances instead of crises, because he is prepared.

Obviously, the liberal style makes more sense......

 

Orderly change is the process of evolution, not spontaneous eruptions of nonsense. Read the response above again. And again. Try to figure it out.