Armed Guards In Every School? What Do You Think Will Happen?

I'll tell you what will happen. Its obvious. So obvious to me, yet to the NRA you will probably need a giant neon sign to get it through to them.

Armed guards in every school. Someone wants to shoot up the school. They know the school has an armed guard. The first thing they will do is seek out the armed guard, shoot him, and then go into the school and start blasting. Duh. They will, of course, eliminate the thread before continuing on.

And forget about this 'only person to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun' - what if the good guy with a gun is shot? And he will be - if the bad guy know who is armed, they will be the first targets.

 

Or the shooter could hop on a school bus and shoot the kids before they even get to school. Sorry folks, but there is no way to stop an armed suicide shooter from killing people. They will find a way.

 

Brett beat me to the punch.

The problem with the OP's logic is that she's trying to control something that isn't in her control.

We create laws to deter crime, but it doesn't succeed in eliminating it.

The same goes for security measures.

We could ban all guns, and shootings would still occur.

The question is what policy has the best cost-benefit ratio in terms of freedoms vs. security.

 

I think an armed guard somewhere will open up on the kids.

 

I dunno, there haven't been any more 9/11s.

 

Our security measures may have limited terrorism more here, but they haven't eliminated successful attacks.

The thing with 9/11 is that it was a much more complicated attack than your typical one. The fact that it even happened is what gives rise to conspiracy theories.

I don't believe the government orchestrated 9/11, but I can sympathize with those that believe the government allowed it to happen.

Successfully pulling off the 9/11 attacks required a lot of things to go right for the terrorists and a lot of things to go wrong with the security measures we already had.

 

One was enough.

 

Armed guard disarmed teen in Atlanta school shooting, says police chief





Waiting

 

We'll hear more stories like the one yesterday in Atlanta where the armed guard intercedes soon after a shooter starts shooting and limits the bloodshed. We'll have lower body counts.

 

Why do you think that? There are thousands of schools that have armed guards and have had them for years. I don't recall seeing any news articles about any of them "opening up on the kids". Have you?

 

shouldn't we be trying to avoid any bloodshed in schools, not limiting it?

 

Elimination is always the ideal, but even some countries with strict gun laws still have school shootings.

They do obviously happen less often, but America doesn't have all the same options as many smaller and safer countries have.

 

The bloodshed will just move outside of the school building.

 

No way. Schools are gun-free zones. A criminal won't violate that. And if that isn't enough, the fact that a wacko is carrying an illegal weapon will surely be enough to get him to stop and reconsider.

And now back to reality: if armed guards at schools is such a lousy idea, let's see Obama disarm the guards where his kids go to school.

 

An armed security person is a trained person who can call 911 without panicking during a crisis situation. He can also give CPR to shooting victims and help guide the police to the shooter when they arrive. There are a lot of reasons to have a security person on campus, even if he isn't armed.

 

Do you support an armed guard on every school bus? Kids are even more vulnerable there.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/driver-fatally-shot-aboard-alabama-school-bus-18349735

 

How about this?

90,000 schools.....90,000 armed guards. And supposedly NOT ONE will be a sociopath who slips through the cracks of a screening process and is given a gun in a school full of children???

 

When insanity meets opportunity meets bad day, who knows?

 

81.5 million students in the US. How many have been killed by psycho shooters?

 

We'll also need them at every mall....every movie theatre....every parking lot....every doctor's office....every rec center.....armed guards everywhere.

And why? Because if we try to regulate guns instead? "America will become a police state!!!!!!"

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We haven't installed the 90,000 (or more) guys with guns in EVERY school yet...have we?

 

No need for armed guards if we armed the populace. If everyone is responsible for their own protection and shows up heal there will be no mass shootings.

 

A similar argument could be made for employing anyone with authority and weapons.

LaPierre's suggestion has flaws of its own (like increasing government spending), but it surely is less oppressive of an idea than an across-the-board ban.

People just need to be realistic in their expectations. Like it or not, one of the burdens of living in a free society is a decrease in security.

Still, if you look at Canada, their gun laws aren't that much more restrictive than our own in areas outside of Toronto, yet they don't have anywhere near as many school shootings.

So, it's not guns that are the problem. It's not media either, since Canadians consume the same media as us.

That limits things down to culture. Fixing our cultural issues isn't generally something that is accomplished by legislation.

 

I will just leave this Harvard study (one of several actually) from HARVARD, not Rush Limbaugh University or Sean Hannity Tech.

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

 

Then, after the word gets out that the bloody violent high body count orgies are being prevented by armed guards, the would-be shooters will lose interest in shooting their way to infamy.

Maybe they'll switch to knives or clubs or maybe they'll switch from schools to OTHER 'gun free zones' for their shooting sprees.

In any event it will make the kids safer in a real way, not just a fantasy feel-good measure that doesn't work.

The incidents of school shootings will decrease when armed guards continue thwarting the shooters.

 

I'm not sure I support it, but I will say I am not opposed to the idea. I would need to look at the cost and benefit. Not sure if that makes sense to you, but it's an honest portrayal of what I think about it.

However, I will say this: I think preventing crime is more about targeting wackos than banning things and putting armed guards everywhere.