Armed Patient Takes Out 'Active Shooter' At Tennessee Dental Office

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  1. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I suggest America adapt the British theory, stay away from dentists and you will not be shot.
     
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    Looks like better gun control could have saved the woman's life.
     
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    The media deserves to be attacked and exposed, at every single opportunity. The rank and file employees might be 'good people', but they are horrible journalists, as they must be to remain employed.
     
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    Attacked for what? The media reported the story. The crazy right wing site in the op cites them.
     
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    As would not have gotten married in the first place.

    Want to stop drunk drivers from killing sober drivers?
    Ban sober drivers from driving.
    That's how gun control works.
     
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    That's a fair question, and my previous post was incomplete.

    The media should be attacked for misrepresenting many stories. The media should be attacked for dishonest journalism and promoting pure propaganda in so many cases. A current one is the BS they promote regarding Guaido and Venezuela.
     
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    The extreme rightwing has a nasty habit of demonizing aspects of American society for no better reason than they need to bring down others in order to boost their own abysmal self esteem. They have denigrated the government, education, welfare, Medicare/medicaid, immigration, diversity, voting rights and the media to name some of the bigger ones. All the while they have embraced some of the worst aspects of our society such as gun violence, bigotry, homophobia, greed, intolerance and ignorance.

    The extreme rightwing are the antithesis of everything our nation stands for IMO.

    No one "deserves" to be vilified by the extreme rightwing but that the extreme rightwing is deluded enough into believing that fallacy says volumes about themselves.

    Once upon a time the GOP tried to PRETEND that it stood for things like "family values" and "main street America" but the ACTIONS of the extreme rightwing exposed those as nothing more than hypocritical lip service in order to seize power and enact their odious agenda.

    The reality that we face today is that America must deal with a small, and shrinking, subset of our society that is proud of representing everything that it wrong with it. We the People will ultimately prevail and achieve a more perfect union in the future but in the meantime we still have to deal with this ugly stain on our reputation that is the extreme rightwing.
     
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    Honestly, it sounds like you're describing drug trade and gang culture.

    I know mass shootings really stand out in our memories, and highlight certain things which trigger debate... but the bigger piece of pie belongs to gang warfare and the dealing of illicit substances.

    What's the ratio of law abiding gun owners to criminals who use a firearm while committing a crime?

    Are you bothered more by blacks killing each other in Chicago, or the autistic kid on psych meds who kills several people at once?

    You can't solve either one of those problems without attacking law abiding citizens who're responsibly practicing a constitutional right.
     
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    Only a small subset of law abiding gun owners embrace the odious agenda of the extreme rightwing.

    That is reflected by the FACT that 85% of gun owners WANT universal background checks which are OPPOSED by the NRA and the extreme rightwing.

    The NRA is ON THE RECORD as supporting the mentally unbalanced having access to lethal firearms. That demonstrates a callous disregard for human life IMO.
     
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    Background checks make sense, hard to argue otherwise. It makes sense to prohibit sales which aren't regulated. It makes sense that there should be a mechanism by which the mentally unstable are prevented from posessing firearms. The problem though is that everything we conceive of as a solution is problematic. Criminals and crazy people don't care about law, that's a problem.

    I believe we're taking the wrong approach, much like with the drug war. Both drug abuse and gun violence are manifestations of deeper issues. We're trying to treat symptoms.
     
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    It’s funny when liberals don’t like a post that they know they can’t argue with, they whine that it is in the wrong forum, or they make that little yawn emoji thing to pretend it’s not newsworthy. When they do things like that, or when they start yelling “racist” or “bigot”, that’s how you know you’ve got them.
     
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    Doncha just love stories like this? Reminds me of my fave film 'Death Wish'. And that Dirty Harry one, also -

    'You feeling lucky, punk? Go ahead, make my day!' Music to my ears.
     
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    I agree that we are taking the wrong approach to both drugs and gun violence.

    Drug addiction is a medical problem.

    Gun obsession is a mental health problem.

    Normal people can reach compromises like legalizing Marijuana and UBC.

    The gun obsessed go into paranoia mode and erroneously believe that the "guv'munt will take away my guns"!

    We need to stop allowing the gun obsessed to obstruct sane and reasonable regulations like UBC.
     
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    The DNC tries to PRETEND every day that they stand for things like "family values" and "main street America" but the ACTIONS of all Democrats expose them as nothing more than hypocrites giving lip service in order to seize power and enact their odious agenda.
     
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    Wanting to stop infringement on fundamental rights is not obsession. UBC wouldn’t change anything. There are already more than reasonable laws in place. If anything, the anti gun nuts are obsessed with wanting to impose their will others. If you really want to stop the violence, dig into the root causes that make people snap like they do. I promise you it’s not the guns talking them into it.
     
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    It is the ACCESS to firearms that is ENABLING them to do it!
     
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    You’re not going to get rid of access to firearms without becoming a tyrannical dictatorship that goes house to house confiscating firearms. All the background checks in the world will not stop anything, as most mass shooters have clean records before committing the act. Even if they didn’t, obtaining guns illegally is simple. Better to have armed law abiding people than an unarmed populace with no defense against psychos.
     
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    UBC includes evaluating the MENTAL state of firearm purchasers prior to their engaging in mass shootings.
     
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    Gee, I can't imagine anything wrong going there. Who the hell is going to decide who can and can't own firearms? Who conducts the evaluation? What if the doctor is very anti gun and does not clear a person for firearm ownership? Vets with PTSD? Ive been diagnosed with PTSD from 4 tours in Iraq as an infantryman. Will I be denied the ability to purchase firearms? This is WAY too slippery a slope, and I sure as hell do not trust those who are going to be the ones making these kind of decisions.
     
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    Show them.
     
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    A waste of time? No one forced you to read it.
     
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    Need mental evaluations to get into public schools. Accept only the mentally healthy children and reject the metally unhealthy. Protect the most children from the bad children who may bring guns or interfere with the education process.
     
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    In other words you SUPPORT the mentally unbalanced having access to lethal firearms and the mass murders that happen as a consequence of your support.
     
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    Your claim, onus is on you to back it up.
     
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    You are aware that murder is illegal no matter the choice of weapon right?
     

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