Army's Readiness and Morale Destroyed

Discussion in 'Warfare / Military' started by APACHERAT, Jan 19, 2016.

  1. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    I guess not. It's not that I don't trust her per say I just always worry about possibly saying or doing something that she might misinterpret in a negative way. I am a goofy guy, I'm "that guy" in the office, always joking around and having fun. I'm worried that I might say the wrong thing to her or in her presence and she will get offended.

    Like I said I don't THINK shes that kind of person who will try to ruin my career if I smile at her or something. But it's still something that remains in the back of my mind at all times. Me and everyone else in the unit which is why I say her mere presence is a major distractor here.

    So to answer your question. Yes I would trust her to cover my six in combat but no I don't fully trust her to not drop a dime on me or something if she misinterprets my goofy antics as flirting or making her uncomfortable or something like that.
     
  2. tkolter

    tkolter Well-Known Member

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    We could do what the British do they have a weekend where everyone wanting to join an armed services branch does their physicals, testing and PT related tests based on their intended service say Army Infantrymen or Chef and if you fail any part you go home and may try again or not. So if a woman wants to be a Marine Combat Rifleman they would need to pass the demands PT wise then or get sent home. She could also put in for several roles say opt to put down Vehicle Driver and Rifleman and might qualify for the first and not the second.

    It seems to me a good way to weed out women who can't cut combat or offer them that or another MOS they want based on service needs. And do this for each branch including the Coast Guard.
     
  3. Herkdriver

    Herkdriver New Member

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    If women want true equality, they should be required to register for selective service after turning 18, the same as males. Until that time, this notion of "equality" is horse hockey.

    Where's the push by Congress and the President to register females for selective service?

    Non-existent. The constituency wouldn't stand for it.
     
  4. Phoebe Bump

    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    Maybe the US military just needs a kick in the ass.

    If you are saying the brass is the problem, where is all the political correctness? From what I'm seeing above, the make-up of the U.S. military is not that different from the make-up of the IDF except that the IDF has mandatory service for women and the IDF has a much higher percentage of women. The article says "Women in the Army aren’t the problem. Political correctness is. Women can do 80 percent of the jobs in the Army and do them magnificently." The IDF uses women in about 90% of its roles. Very few people argue that the IDF isn't a tough fighting force. Again, where is the political correctness? It doesn't seem to have much at all to do with women.

    Sorry, man, but I'm just not seeing how the author is tying the military's woes to political correctness OR to women. In fact, the article contradicts itself throughout.
     
  5. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    I think they would stand for it, and it wouldn't surprise me to see a change in the selective service laws within the next few years. I used to think the country wouldn't stand for placing women in the front lines, "what if the enemy starts raping female prisoners?"

    Well the enemy did wind up raping women prisoners and the country didn't care, so all bets are off.
     
  6. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I remember when PFC Jessica Lynch and the other female soldier were captured in Iraq. Both were raped. The black female soldier was whining that she wasn't raped enough compared to the good looking PFC Lynch.
     
  7. Lil Mike

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    Lynch was one of the soldiers I was thinking of, but I didn't recall a black female soldier complaining about not being raped enough....that's wacky. Lynch's white privilege I guess...
     
  8. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's what comes along white privilege, a white female soldier can be expected to be sexualy assaulted more than a non white female soldier.
     
  9. Lil Mike

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    Well, men go AWOL also. But this really leaves me shaking my head. Injured in training, goes on medical leave and never returns. I bet her recruiter is now banging his head on the desk and calling her every name he can think of.
     
  11. Herkdriver

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    How does this work in the Army. The article states she was still going through basic training at Ft. Leonard Wood. Is it in the contract with a guarantee of that MOS? Apparently even basic was too much, but if she enlisted as a combat engineer, I'm curious if that is somehow a part of the contract assuming she passed the technical school after basic.
     
  12. Mushroom

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    From how it reads to me, she got injured during training and was on medical leave. She was supposed to go back after it was up and resume her training.

    It does not say when she was injured, but if she started in September then by November she would have been in her MOS school. I am only guessing that is where she got hurt, and where she was on leave from. Most Army schools like that expect a certain number of injuries, and have a system in place to get them treated then put back into training with another class at a later date.
     
  13. Lil Mike

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    It would be part of the contract, to go to the MOS school after Basic, but at that point it's up to her. Of course when you go AWOL, all bets are off.
     
  14. Herkdriver

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    Anyone who enlists or is commissioned should plan on fulfilling any commitment they make. It starts with knowing what you're commiitting to. She went in with what appears to be a good attitude, but obviously the reality of Army life sunk in..maybe missing her two kids and husband. Going AWOL is a very serious offense and whatever charges are brought she'll carry on her record for life.

    She'll probably get a OTH discharge and the Army will be done with her. Of course many will use her as the poster girl for why women don't belong in combat jobs, but as Mushroom pointed out, males go AWOL also. Clearly she got in over her head to be motivated to never return to her unit. A decision that will follow her for the rest of her life certainly. I can't emphasize enough about fully understanding what the commitment involves.
     
  15. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If Pvt. Lopez was a member of my platoon, I would probably would be distracted from the objective because I would be spending to much time watching Pvt. Lopez's six. Well maybe her tits. She does have some nice boobs.

    The IDF discovered that during the late 1940's and that why it's a myth that women serve in combat in the IDF. Just a PC myth.
     

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