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As Climate Worsens, a Cascade of Tipping Points Looms

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    The majority of the previous 9 Holocene warming periods had warming rates higher than our current warming.
     
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    So, obviously then, I didn't even know what I was asking. Wouldn't it have been easier, instead of all this back and forth posting, to have just have mentioned the book again?

    I will go back and look for your reference.

    Thanks,
    Rich
     
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    120 years of data is plenty of time to perform a statistical analysis of the climate. The age of the earth is irrelevant to modern day analysis of the climate. You are essentially saying

    that you know more than all of the climate scientists.
     
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    You keep bringing up this claim about 9 Holocene warming periods but you can't produce any evidence for this. Where is there a single scientific paper that supports 9 global
    warming periods during the Holocene? Regional warming periods don't count and I don't doubt that there were regional warming periods.
     
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    120 years with a planet 4.5 billion years old?

    Illogical
     
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    The references have been posted.
     
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    Because no one even America existed
     
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    It’s actually only ~ 40 years of reliable satellite data.
     
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    And you think scientists are too dumb to take all of that into account?

    Please don’t tell me that you are one of those who do not believe that scientists have measipured solar out, calculated the current effect of milankovitch cycles etc
     
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    Why did those previous 9 warming cycles occur ?? What does the IPCC say ???
     
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    ?????

    Doesn’t make sense

    You cannot simultaneously claim That there were 9 Holocene warming periods whilst denying that there were ways of meaning warming and cooling
     
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    My friend, I found out a few years ago scientist discovered clouds covered Greenland

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/01/12/scientists-just-found-an-unexpected-factor-that-could-be-driving-greenlands-ice-loss/?outputType=amp



     
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    And this is where you are claiming there is no evidence whilst claiming there is
    upload_2019-12-21_14-1-52.jpeg
    We know what CO2 does
     
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    Yea we exhale C02, the planet Mars and Venus atmosphere is both made up of 90% plus of CO2, one planet is hot as hell the other is not, we live in the goldie lock zone
     
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    Now why would there be an increase or decrease in the cloud cover over Greenland?


    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-46152-5
     
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    And one has a much much much thicker atmosphere than the other

    Ever seen the temperature calculations for Venus were it not for the fact it has a runaway greenhouse effect?
    https://www.space.com/18526-venus-temperature.html
    http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/04/lessons-from-venus/
     
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    Run out of so called “science”?

    Why don’t you just quote Anthony Watts
    upload_2019-12-21_14-37-52.jpeg
    Or Lord Moncton?

    upload_2019-12-21_14-36-25.jpeg
     
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    Good we have establish one fact

    Now tell why it is warming
     
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