As I said before: Republicans have been left with nothing to run on...

I don't care. What I DO know is that REPUBLICANS believe it would work. And that, because it would work, they vote against it! This means the backlash if they try to use this narrative in November will be swift and painful

 

No. You said they "know it will work". The problem is that it will not work. I have heard no republican say otherwise.

 

If all the lies about Trump were true? I guess I would consider still voting for Trump because Biden is just that bad of a president.

 

Hilarious

https://abcnews.go.com/US/video/bidens-age-concerns-impact-presidential-race-107113321

Looks like there is an opening for a feel good, ignore facts propagandist..

 

. Strong economy? Inflation still chugging along. Prices still astronomical, people one layoff away from poverty. Shelter, food, fuel still 15% higher than when Biden took over. Data from CBO today shows Biden has increased the debt MORE in year years than Trump did in four; and Trump's economy was rebounding from COVID when he handed over to Joe.

and this benefits Biden how? He can't remember being Vice President.

. Be careful what you wish for.

 

The US president DOES NOT CONTROL GAS PRICES.

Also, the president does NOT control inflation.

And, spending is primarily the job of congress, starting with the House - which really doesn't even exist today.

 

When he restrictions drilling, licensing, and transportation he damn sure does. Not to mention the billions in his "environment bill".

He damn sure does. Pumping billions in the economy is a prime cause of inflation.

And how much gets spent if the President doesn't sign the bill? He's been blustering and boasting for three year about Bidenomics - which has been one spending bill after another.

 

Oil price is set by the international market. To change that market the US would have to pump an ADDITIONAL significant fraction of world production. US drilling can not do that.

Analysts say the reason for the major spike in inflation was oil prices skyrocketing and the bogging down of the supply chain.

Spending bills come from the House.

Our economy is doing very well, including employment. What's not going so well is that the wealthy are reaping most of that profit. One step in the right direction is empowering workers through unions.

And, Trump even tried to FAKE that.

 

We need to hire 20000 new border agents, hire Lots more judges to work with the border and build facilities that hold the captured
then raise the number of people who can work in the USA

We have a severe worker shortage. We need more workers. Let the work here. Pay taxes. Then go back home.

 

Reality doesn't matter. The reality is that the economy isn't bad right now, stock market at record highs, unemployment very low, inflation almost under control. However, when you listen to RW media propaganda, the sky is falling and we are at the brink of total destruction of the US. It's all about perception, and conservatives have been masterful at creating the perception that GOP politicians are better for "business" and, thus, the economy. Voters will vote based on this perception, not reality or facts.

 

The economy is awful and getting worse. If you watch the media on the left (which you obviously do a lot of) you will see tons of stories about how the economy is great and the American people don't see it. You see the exact same stories about how Americans believe crime is up but the numbers show it's not.

You know why that is? Because you're cooking the books. You're manipulating the numbers to make the numbers look good so you can claim to have a good economy and a low crime rate. But that doesn't change the reality on the ground. Your numbers do not reflect reality.

 

You left out some key information.

The stock market is at record dollar level highs. However, the purchasing power of your investment in the stock market is at least 20% less than it was a couple of years ago because of inflation.

The actual unemployment is considerably higher than the official rate because so many people are no longer looking for work. Unemployment was lower in February 2000 than it is now.

 

I am cooking the books? LOL!

In any case, you are making my point, numbers and facts don't really count in RW world anymore, it's all about feelings. Just because you FEEL the economy is terrible (after hearing it a trillion times on RW media), it has to be true.

Sure thing. Just wait until November, if Trump gets re-elected, all of a sudden the economy will be the greatest ever again, and numbers will be believed, unless the numbers are bad, then it's the deep state fudging them to make Trump look bad.

Also, all of a sudden the LFPR will not be used anymore as a measure of REAL unemployment, but we'll go back to the actual unemployment rate numbers, because they'll make Trump look better.

You are a smart guy, you know how this works.

 

Not you obviously. Ya wanna know why nobody feels as tho crime is down? Because it's not. The left is simply prosecuting those crimes less which results in the police arresting them less because there's no reason to do so. That makes your numbers look good but it doesn't change the reality on the ground.

 

I hope neither Biden nor Trump gets elected.

The message is simple. The economy is not great. It stinks and is not likely to smell any better in the near future.

 

So feel free to change that to "they BELIEVE it will work. And it's for that reason they vote AGAINST it"

No difference...

 

I don't think you're even understanding the problem. If they are allowed to enter using fake passports, that's a COMPLETELY different issue. Vetting a fake passport takes seconds. And if they can afford a fake passport so well made that they can fool border agents, they can afford a first class ticket to any International airport in the U.S. NO border bill is going to stop them.

I'm sorry but it's just a waste of time responding to you because it's clear that you're not understanding what this is about.

 

Ok. So then please don't pretend like FACTS matter to you. We have now established that you'll vote for Trump no matter what reality is.

 

Thanks Joe!

 

Trump blocked a bipartisan bill to address that, so he owns that issue now, it's all in his lap

 

sure it is

 

Right. And that's the problem for Republicans. Perception is changing. Consumer confidence rose at an unprecedented rate in December and January. It's still bad. But if it improved that much in two months, you can imagine what might happen in the next nine.

Unless something truly unexpected happens, you can count on the MAGA media slowly veering away from this issue as November approaches.

 

Using your assumption that the only thing for a candidate to run on is the negatives of htier opponent...

Other than out of control inflation, a border under seige due to his executive actions and cities bankrupting themselves trying to house these invaders, wokeness run far afoul of the American Center, getting millions deposited into Biden family shell accounts for no readily apparent legitimate reason, a weak foreign policy that has led to international crises that seem to grow by the day, Iranian proxies repeatedly attacking our troops, the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal, a weaponized justice department, out of control spending, sky high interest rates, consumer confidence being in the toilet, confusion at seemingly every lectern in sight, not passing his signature "build back better" act, some weird attempt at buying votes via student debt forgiveness, and some bizarre pandering where he just brought a black family some carry out fried chicken so that he can ask them how they are doing.....yeah, I guess there is nothing to run on.

 

It would be nothing short of a wet dream for Biden to hope Trump tries to run on this (in fact on any of the points you mentioned... but THIS one in particular). First of all, the "Biden family" is not running for office. Joe Biden is. And you have a congressional committee that has been in place for MONTHS... and they can't even come up with... let's not even mention evidence... they can't even come up with any wrongdoing to ACCUSE him of.

I can see it now: "We investigated Trump for over a year, we got all these receipts and deposits that Joe Biden willfully provided, we don't know what they're for, but they look "suspicious" because they come from his son, who is a drug adict. But even though we have spent months investigating them, we know nothing more today that before we started spending taxpayer money on this".

That should be a great campaign slogan... I'm eager to seeing it in a serious ad.

Mind you, I'm sure Russians are doing their part of the 2024 collusion deal preparing fake propaganda for Social Media. But it's NOT anything that Republicans will OFFICIALLY be running on.

 

Sure thing. What a stupid move it would be to run on the negatives that have occurred during his presidency. Who would do such a thing? (sarcasm)