Atrocities against Voivodina Hungarians

no , i can ask you again if you have some example how did Milosevic targeted Hungarians post them pls...

 

No, the US has no official language legislation of any kind. There are racists who make proposal attempts but that is only a noise that always existed and will continue. The US may be a melting pot, but Slovakia is not a US.

I may not know much about central european history, but I found Moravia in the map, and it is the eastern half of the czech republic, NOT slovakia. So, following YOUR logic, slovakians are immigrants in the Carpathian mountains and should go home to Moravia or learn Hungarian.

Why?

Is that because American racists want to anglicize mexicans? So now slovaks want to be good racists too? If this is true, then the aspiration of Slovaks to become good racists is like zombies flooding Hungarian land.

Such proposals always come and go, there is probably a 100 of them from last year and another 100 from next year.

But it is only Slovakia where such racists actually get to pass laws.

 

I thought I answered your question in my previous reply to your post, but if that is not enough, then, I hear the Hungarian TV has documentaries that Milosevic emptied Hungarian villages during the Yugoslavia war. But since that was before my time, and all of it is in Hungarian, you are probably better suited to watch them.

 

1) You are not an american if you cannot understand the Constitution has declared English is the Official language used in Court Orders-Legal Documents-etc.

2) Racism has nothing to do with Assimilation. If you immigrate into another country, you need to adopt the langauge of the country and not import your countries demogropaphics. The only racism I see comes from you calling mexican wetbacks? LOL. Playing the racist card will not excuse for respecting the adoption of the language and law of the country. Should americans speak english in mexico and call mexicans racist for not accepting english in legal documents in mexico as part of law? LOL

3) You don't have the right to tell anyone to go back to the carpathian mountains and USE ANCIENT HISTORY TO ETHNICALLY CLEANSE PEOPLE?
YOU SOUND LIKE AN ALBANIAN FASCIST ROMAN CATHOLIC. LOL.TYPICAL ANSWERS.

4) You are not even slovakian because all of your biaseness favors hungarians. LOL You are probably albanian shqip. YOu don't even know a word of hungarian which IS NOT EVEN LISTED IN THE INDO-EUROPEAN LANGUAGE BUT BELONG TO A CENTRAL ASIAN HUN GROUP . LOL

 

that's just stupid, do you think that some new agency like CNN , BBC wouldn't report about this if really happened.


maybe you are victim of some Neo-Nazi Hungarian propaganda ?

like ''The Sixty-Four Counties Youth Movement''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixty-Four_Counties_Youth_Movement



or maybe ''Magyar Gárda''

 

I am American, you need to read the Constitution again. If you have a question, please cut-paste the part of the Constitution in a post here.

I am not talking about immigration. The wetbacks come to the land that we US English speakers stole from them in the US-Mexico war. Every English speaking American kid learns in school, that the US-Mexico war was NOT a just war. In contrast, Slovakian schools don't teach that trianon was NOT a just treaty. So we Americans are a LOT better than Slovakians, at least in logic and brain power.

I've never posted that, it was YOUR logic that denounced multiculturalism by calling people "immigrants" and forcing them to do business in a foreign language. I provided you with examples that we Americans don't do things in that retarded assimilation way, and neither do most EU countries, by the way.

The map favors Slovakians, not Hungarians. The guns favor Slovakians, not Hungarians. How does it matter then who I favor? Where will you get the next gun that favors Slovakia? Europe is changing again.

 

On 2nd thought, I think you may be right, m81. You are closer to the fire, so I believe you.

 

1) You lost your credibility in this debate because you called mexicans a racist derogatory remark.

2) Our debate isn't about the US-Mexican war.

3)I already outlined in a previous post about the english language being the official language to be used in legal documents such as business contracts and income tax files...YOU CAN'T USE THE ALBANIAN LANGUAGE TO FILE THOSE DOCUMENTS IN THE U.S......


4)YOU CAN'T SPEAK HUNGARIAN AND YOU ARE NOT HUNGARIAN AND YOU HAVE PROBLEMS USING GOOGLE TRANSLATOR TO TRANSLATE THE HUNGARIAN LANGUAGE BECAUSE ITS ONE OF THE DIFFICULTEST LANGUAGE IN EUROPE DUE TO ITS ALTAIC ORGINS. LOL...YOU HAVE NO INTEREST IN HUNGARY...


5)EVERYONE IN THE US USES ENGLISH IN LEGAL DOCUMENTS AND NOT SPANISH OR ALBANIAN... OK..... IN THE COURT OF LAW, THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS IN USE WHEN YOU FACE CRIMINAL CHARGES OR TRAFFIC TICKETS AND NOT ALBANIAN OR SPANISH OR SLOVAKIAN...
I ALREADY PROVIDED A LINK ABOUT THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE AS THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE IN THE CONSTITUTION.


6) MULTICULTURALISM WAS NOT EVEN PART OF OUR ARGUMENT. IF YOU ARE AN IMMIGRANT IN CROATIA, YOU NEED TO LEARN CROATIAN TO LIVE IN THE COUNTRY. SIMPLE...

 

The messages of graffiti found on homes as well as public institutions explicitly incite to violence against minorities and contain frequent use of the words "death to Hungarians," "slaughter," "go home," and "this is our land." The latter two messages are particularly grotesque in light of the fact that while the country has not adequately addressed the issue of hundreds of thousands of internally displaced ethnic Serbians from Croatia and Bosnia, Hungarians and other ethnic groups in Vojvodina are autochthonous. The well-known and unmistakable Serbian nationalistic acronym "CCCC" often accompanies these warnings as do anti-Semitic symbols. HHRF's expanded report contains 21 such incidents.
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September 28, 2004

In Újvidék/Novi Sad, unidentified perpetrators spray-painted graffiti on two columns of a building located in the projects on Bata Brkic Street in the Újtelep District. One of the text's was written in Cyrillic letters and stated "Death to Hungarians" (in Serbian: "Smrt madjarima"); the other said "Canak is an ustasha," referring to Nenad Canak, President of the Vojvodina Assembly as being a Croatian facist. The Serbian acronym with the four C-s separated in four fields by a cross -- popular among Serbian nationalists -- was also left behind. [Magyar Szó (Újvidék/NoviSad), September 28, 2004]

September 24, 2004

Graffiti stating "Death to Hungarians" (In Serbian: "Smrt Madjarima") was spray-painted in red, Cyrillic letters on a residential home located at No. 73 Sándor Petőfi Street in Újvidék/Novi Sad. The Serbian nationalist acronym of four letter "C"-s was also spray-painted next to the graffiti. The house belongs to an ethnic Hungarian family living in the so-called "Telep District" where most of the city's ethnic Hungarians live. Spokesman for the Újvidék police, Stevan Krstic, told the local Radio 021 that an investigation of the case is underway. [Vajdaság MA -- Délvidék Hírportál (www.vajdasagma.info), September 24, 2004; Index (www.index.hu), September 24, 2004]

September 15, 2004

At night, unknown perpetrators imbedded a 35-cm kitchen knife into the front door of the home of the Sötét family of Szabadka/Subotica. Graffiti using Cyrillic letters and stating "Death" and "Drop dead, Hungarians!" was also spray-painted on the house, as well as the well-known Serbian nationalistic acronym "CCCC." 13-year old Klementina Sötét discovered the knife and the graffiti as she was walking to school that morning. She ran back into the house, screaming that there was blood on the door. The family reported the incident to the police, which began an investigation. It also issued a short statement stating that nationalistic and offensive graffiti -- there was no mention of the knife in the statement -- appeared on a family home's walls, targeting members of the ethnic Hungarian minority. The incident came only 12 hours before Ferenc Mádl, President of the Republic of Hungary's official visit to Szabadka as the final destination.

 

spt 5 could you get a date ???? are you single? still flaming all this propaganda

 

And the recent plethora of graffitti by albanians in Macedonia garners no attention from you? Flags and murals of greater albania?

 

mona lisa seems to spew spams of old news from the 1990s...

don't fall for it... i wonder if its she or a he? and frozy and spt5 and davinci are the same people

 

In August, a group of ethnic Serbian youth assaulted 19-year old Denisz Sötét at a bus stop near the Hotel Patria in downtown Szabadka and he suffered numerous bruises and injuries (see report of August 22, 2004 in Section I). Since he has gone public with his story, Sötét's mother, Slavica, told reporters that during the daytime a black car drives around their home and sometimes stops at the house, reviving its engine. On September 17, the five-member family abandoned their home and left Vojvodina seeking political asylum in neighboring Hungary. Only the Sötét's eldest son has remained in Szabadka. This development came unexpectedly after both József Kasza, Alliance of Hungarians in Vojvodina President, and Hungarian President Mádl visited the family, urging them to remain in Serbia. Currently, the Sötéts reside in one of Hungary's three refugee camps, awaiting Hungarian authorities to grant them political asylum. [Magyar Szó (Újvidék/Novi Sad), September 16, 18-19, 2004; Népszabadság (Budapest), September 18, 2004]

August 25, 2004

A group of 15 supporters of the Obilić (Belgrade) football team set fire to the Hungarian national flag in Újvidék/Novi Sad during a game between the Obilić and Vojvodina (Novi Sad) teams. They also held up a banner with the slogan: "Temerin, revenge, warriors" which they put aside when the police came. The police escorted the instigators to the police station where misdemeanor charges of misconduct were filed against two: Mihajlo Milenović (aged 21) and Dalibor Marinovićot (aged 26). Each paid a fine of 700 Dinars (approx. $US 11). Further court proceedings are expected regarding the flag burning incident as this constitutes a crime in Serbia and not merely a misdemeanor according to the penal code. [Magyar Szó (Újvidék/Novi Sad), August 27, 2004]

July 25, 2004

Temerin City Council Chairman, József Milinszky, issued a statement informing the public about a flag-burning incident. At 3:15 a.m., a local police officer on downtown patrol saw three flags burning in front of the First Local Community's headquarters. The Serbian, Hungarian and local flags had been put on display the previous day as part of a festival. A police investigation is underway. The desecration of national symbols is prohibited by the penal code. [Magyar Szó (Újvidék/Novi Sad), July 26, 2004]

 

old news..

now its dec 2011...

why are you spamming with old news ?

 

I think that you were kinda doing same with older news in one of the threads:

http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9906/17/kosovo.04/

June 17, 1999

 

Other than that, hungarian minority at least from the legal body of Republic of Serbia was treated fairly, in the research it is clearly stated issues that hungarians in Serbia face and it is mainly due to the demographic fall in recent years, especially considering children attending schools in Hungarian language (elementary, secondary school and university).
However, councils of national minorities are not being consulted when it comes to the changes in educational and other laws but that's not case with RS only but also with other countries in a region.

 

Other than what? What do you find disturbing about it? It was on a municipal level (municipal officials were chosen by the citizens of that district) to bring a decision about official municipal/regional languages.

 

you must be mona lisa and spt 5 ...all in one and you don't even have a job but need to finish college. LOL.

mona lisa wanted proof about albanian raping a nun from the past ..I provided mona lisa with the evidence ...

whats with the spam of hungarians? LOL .... all the news has been focusing with greece and portugal going down broke ...in europe..

 

why are you posting old news article and have not participated in any discussion of a single topic?

 

It fits the timeline he took into consideration. he speaks about the past as well. whether I have a job, or finishing a college is none of your business so back off .

 

Timeline.......

LOL...

what timeline? are you a claiming apprentice to nostradamus?

mona lisa spammed all these news articles copy and paste and nobody will read those articles.

Mona Lisa should have provided a LINK instead of copy and paste news articles spamming news reports clogging the meg files in each forum?????
thats spam....and moderators usually delete those news spams because it cloggs up server space where they have to pay a hosting fee every month for you to have fun....

SPAM usually cloggs up gigabyte space... and make things run slow and so they delete them... Did you ever know that?

Mona Lisa could have just copy and pasted the URL link and it would have been better. ????

I guess Mona Lisa doesnt have education about running a website forum...
Need to go to school for that...??? before making the perfect propaganda...


I only know we live in 2011 going into 2012 and all this news is worthless....

He has not posted anything from voyvodina in 2011... so posting things from the 1990s and early 2000s... is worthless..

Mladic and Karadzic are both in prison and Milosevic is dead...

So albanians can't find a bogeyman to play victimization for separatist movements anymore...

I am sorry to break the news...

 

October 5, 2003

At 7 a.m. in Grbavica (near Újvidék/Novi Sad), on the corner of Tolstoy and Puskin Streets, three young Serbian men aged 25-26 insulted Károly Nász and his wife, sprinkling beer over the husband. The couple was saying goodbye when the three, drunk men approached them. Hearing the spouses speaking Hungarian, they spilled beer over Károly Nász, started insulting them, and kicking their car. Nász called the police but was unable to give an accurate description of the aggressors due to his emotional state. Nász also told reporters that a week ago his grandparents' grave was desecrated in the Roman Catholic cemetery in Novi Sad. [Magyar Szó (Újvidék/ Novi Sad), October 9, 2003]

September 28, 2003

During the night, 86 graves were desecrated and severely damaged in the Roman Catholic cemetery of Újvidék/Novi Sad. Several crosses were overturned and tombstones uprooted. A 35year-old grave of an infant, for example, was dug out half way after its marble tombstone was removed. The total damage is estimated at 950,000 Dinars (approximately $US 15,800). Police began an investigation and found the perpetrators: two minors, a girl (A.K.) and a boy (M.P.) who are currently high school students. The perpetrators admitted to the crime and said they were intoxicated at the time of the act. The legal guardian of one of the perpetrators said that police investigation was very controversial. At first, police stated that both perpetrators' houses were searched in trying to gather evidence for the crime. However, police did not in fact come to their house. Secondly, it appears that more than two perpetrators were involved in the incident. The legal guardian told the daily Dnevnik that it is impossible for two minors -- a boy weighting 64 kg and a girl weighing 35 kg -- to cause such extensive damage in only one hour (which was length of the incident according to the police report). Before the judge, the two perpetrators claimed that they damaged only a few crosses and graves but added that a group of older boys had been watching them from the cemetery's fence and also drinking. [Magyar Szó (Újvidék/ Novi Sad), September 29 and 30, October 2, 7, November 8-9, 14 and 22-23, 2003]

April 16, 2003

In Szabadka/Subotica, unknown perpetrators vandalized one of the memorial stones in the Parcel No. 44 of the Zenta Street cemetery. This section holds the engraving of the names of 29 innocent victims of the 1944 massacres in Vojvodina. Local residents informed Ferenc Sinkovits, President of the '44 Memorial Committee, who reported the incident to the police. Last year one of the memorial stones was also damaged along with the gate and fence of the section. [Magyar Szó (Újvidék/ Novi Sad), April 18, 2003]

February 1, 2003

In the Roman Catholic cemetery of Újvidék/Novi Sad, unknown perpetrators vandalized three tombstones. A police investigation is underway. [Magyar Szó (Újvidék/ Novi Sad), February 6, 2003]

 

I think that Vojvodina should return to Hungary. serbs should be expelled and driven to beligradski pashaluk. In that way, peace will rule in Balkans !

 

you still haven't answered my question about your hostility in your threads?

why do you have to write insults?

 

Long live Belgradski Pashallëk