Austin Orders Renaming of Bases that Honor Confederate Rebels

However, it was not that originally. It was originally a National Guard training facility known as the "Ozark Triangular Division Camp", that the Army activated and named to Camp Rucker during WWII. And as was traditional, it was a National Guard Camp, named for a hero of the state in which it was formed in. And for years it remained a Camp, rotated in and out of Army Service when it was not used by the Alabama Guard until 1955 when it was finally made into a Fort.

If anything, it should have been given the name of Fort Cairns. That was the name of the airfield, and Major General Bogardus Cairns was the commander of the Aviation Center when he was killed there in the crash of an H-13 he was piloting.

 

Wokists are ERASING factual history and replacing it with fake history that is inline with their propaganda.

I doubt if many Army aviators have a clue who Rucker was. They associate the name with the PLACE and their personal experiences. Just like I really don't know much about a guy named Benning. But the name conjures up pleasant memories of hanging 1250 feet in the air looking into Alabama, some cliffhanging in nearby Dahlonega, night firings at RED CLOUD RANGE, some wild nights at the JUNGLE BAR, and lots more.

 

Its a name on a base. That's not 'history' its not even a sentence of history. You want history, go learn some, but stop whining about petty crap.

 

You have obviously never been in the military. Places like Rucker and Benning are sacred in the eyes of Soldiers that trained and served there. Its where we made lifelong friends, brothers that went to war with, where we established lifelong comrades that we shared our lives with, risked our lives with, and here we changed our lives.

You obviously never had such experiences and simply don't understand.

 

Oh stop! I am not tearing up. This is not supposed to be about how you feel. This post is all about you, your military friendships and your personal history etc. Not a word you wrote has anything to do with a love or passion for civil war history . If you see these military bases as 'sacred', you hardly have the objectivity and distance to handle this. Its no wonder you can't see the difference between learning history and seeing your preferred name on a plaque on building or base.

 

yep, it was renamed then, we survived it, they will just learn the new name and move on

some will prefer the new name, some won't, but we will all move on - the losers of a war often get their names removed from stuff - the Confederates were the losers

 

Its not just how I feel. Its how millions of our nation's Soldiers feel. Your heartless handling of this subject contributes to a serious diminishment of the morale and esprit of those who defend our nation. This isn't about HISTORY. History is done... over... gone... left the building. The morale and esprit of our soldiers TODAY effects our FUTURE. And you are doing your best to send that future into darkness.

 

Well finally! Of course this has nothing to do with protecting or honoring our 'history' . That was a pile of manure all along. So now you are shoveling another pile of manure instead.
What objective evidence can you provide about how the military feels about these specific name changes? Do you have polling data to show the vast majority of our air force, army, navy and marines even care what the name is of any specific military base most of them have never stepped foot on? How are you measuring this alleged potential impact on the 'morale and esprit of our soldiers'? You can't. The only soldiers who are likely to care at all either currently are stationed at that base or soldiers who were once stationed on such a base. That is one very small slice of the American population. This is about whether we collectively want to continue to celebrate the memory of some generals for the confederacy who have been dead for over a century, on our tax dime or not. Its not representative of anything larger or smaller than the politics surrounding how we see the confederacy today, as opposed to we thought about them when that name was put on.

Times change, sometimes our tastes and values change.

 

You obviously have no idea at all about the military. Have you ever even MET a Soldier? Your obvious ignorance about things military makes talking to you on this subject a waste of time. Please stick to things you know about like gay rights and transgender issues. You know NOTHING about the military so talking to you on this subject is a total waste of time.

 

This is not about the military. Its about you making assertions with zero evidence and trying to exploit your alleged connection to the military to gaslight us when you are called on it.

 

It isn't about the military? What? The subject is changing the traditional names of military installations. That's ALL ABOUT the military. Many of us look upon these places... Benning... Rucker and so forth as "home" in many ways. You know nothing of the military. Its senseless to try and explain something to you are simply unable to understand.

"Never try to teach a pig to sing. It only wastes your time... and irritates the pig."