Autonomous drone swarms and losing control.

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  1. Dissily Mordentroge

    Dissily Mordentroge Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Drones have a very long way to go in order to catch up th the death toll created from human error. How many of our own men have been shot or bombed by our own military?
     
  3. Dissily Mordentroge

    Dissily Mordentroge Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    True, but how do you court marshall a swarm of drones that have turned against you?
    What happens when terrorists &/or criminals get hold of this technology?
    There are so many unanswered questions .
     
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    Run toward the wind turbine and hope you can get to the other side first. They are like giant flyswatters.
     
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    Big deal …

    Here is Minnesota, we call them, "mosquitoes" …
     
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    I hope they haven't activated Spynet yet. There could be hunter-killers soon.
     
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    Be AFRAID … !!! Be VERY afraid … !!!
     
  8. Dissily Mordentroge

    Dissily Mordentroge Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why the hell don't you people take this seriously? The US military are investing large amounts into developing automous drone swarms connecet with each other, acting together and with access to the web. For crying out loud, use your bloody imaginations for a change !
     
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    I've already seen the very imaginative movies -- The "Terminator" series, "I, Robot," and "Colossus: The Forbin Project," the "Star Trek Next Generation" episodes featuring "The Borg," and "2001: A Space Odyssey," etc., etc. …

    We're ready … Relax … Take a couple deep breaths ...
     
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    I would be more worried about my car wrongly second guessing me in a high risk circumstance.....

    no to mention the hacker risk....

    if your car does do this, your still going to be blamed for it, no one is gonna blame the computer code in the car

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    Who IS that person parked on the street in front of your house using your own WiFi and trying to *hack* into your home computer network … ???
     
  12. Dissily Mordentroge

    Dissily Mordentroge Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's happened often with a range of Volkswagens. As far as I can learn the drivers were held responsible, not the manufacturer. I recently test drove several cars which gave me the uneasy feeling their software was deciding how I should drive rather than being in control myself. Didn't buy one in fact settling on an older Mitsubishi 'Lancer' with low mileage and less intrusive software. But hey, soon we won't have a choice.
     
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    Wait, is the a real post?

    I dont mean to be rude, but I couldnt tell if your last post was serious or not?

    We will die first, you'll have some time when we warn you. Keep subscribed to this exact thread
     
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    Mosquitoes kill twice as many people as humans do, every year.
     
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    Considering they will probably be deployed near the enemy it's a good chance they will swarm them.

    The bottom line is that even when there are mishaps there will still be more soldiers lives saved in the long run.
     
  16. Dissily Mordentroge

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    Wish I shared your optimism.
     
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    Tomahawks are fully on their own once launched and how many of them have turned around to attack us?
     
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    Repent! Repent! Give up your evil ways! The end is nigh!
     
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    Ha!

    See they have you tricked, those are what you THINK are mosquitoes.
     
  20. Dissily Mordentroge

    Dissily Mordentroge Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you understand the meaning of 'autonomous' and it's implications when combined with genetic algorithms?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_algorithm
     
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    No, we are not ready. Remember the vaunted NASA/JPL making a simple units conversion mistake? Or cars with the stuck accelerator pedal, or faulty airbags? Or the mistake in the Hubble mirror? Unsafe lithium batteries on planes? Friendly fire on the battlefield despite processes and equipment to prevent such incidents.

    And those were fairly simple systems. Systems are becoming so complex that it takes ever larger teams to understand them. The more complex the system, the more complex the testing process. People make mistakes, they fail to communicate, processes are faulty. The learning curve gets bigger and steeper every year.

    I'm waiting for autonomous cars to be deployed on a large scale. Its going to be awesome. The daily video of frantic people banging on the windows of an out of control car, the massive pile-ups as car after car drives full speed into the wrecked car ahead of it, cars getting confused and turning off a bridge. The havoc the environment (weather, wear and tear, damaged components) is going to play on the system, the weird errors in the software that were missed, and the hackers will have a field day.

    I am going to be particularly interested in any car "powered by Microsoft" LOL
     
  22. Dissily Mordentroge

    Dissily Mordentroge Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mangled by Mr Gates spaghetti code ! Run over by the blue screen of death! ! What an ignoble way to go !!
    But those kinds of system are invariably the fault of sloppy command line code writers.
    Genetic algorithms are something different. They give the software the power to re-design itself. If self preservation at all costs is part of the initial design for a group of armed machines who communicate and act in concert with each other, connected to the web without human intervention we're in trouble. Sometimes I'm glad I'm old enough to know I'm soon leaving the planet.
     
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    someone could hack your car from china if your car is linked to the net
     
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    The responsibility in this case would be of who has written the base software loaded in the computers of the drone. In case of AI, well the AI could be considered in part responsible [with the SW engineers who created it] and be destroyed [death penalty for Artificial Intelligence units who don't follow human instructions!].
     
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    To hack a military drone is not that easy, but I guess that intelligence and military specialists of several countries are working on the problem. It's all evident that if there will be someone able to produce a technology giving the certainty to hack unmanned drones ... drones will become useless [when not extremely dangerous!].
     

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