AWESOME- Unborn child has inalienable RIGHT TO LIFE- AL Supreme Court

Another mischaracterization of the pro-choice viewpoint.

Would it then be appropriate to mischaracterize anti-abortionists as people who just want to punish women who chose to enjoy a perfectly normal and healthy sex life with their boyfriend/husband with pregnancy and childbirth?

 

Lol, nice strawman, care to cite exactly where I say responsibility comes from being scared of the law?

If responsibility is not a legal requirement (which it isn't) then each person can (and does) decide if they wish to be responsible or not. I cannot force you to be responsible and you cannot force another either. So in reality respo0nsability is irrelevant.

Nope, still irrelevant, unless you can prove that consent to sex is consent to pregnancy -- it isn't BTW, and sorry but yes she can change your mind, that is why it is called choice . .you know the thing you want to remove from a woman based on her medical situation.

 

Then why didn't he say it like that instead of going on about masturbating and running vibrators until the batteries run out?

Surely he could have said these things without being lewd and vulgar.

 

it doesnt make me feel good at all actually, but I bet many will second guess that route if it's not as convenient as we've made it.

 

so in reality then all you have is unfounded assumptions based on a non-provable opinion. good to know

Care to provide evidence to support that, or is it just another unfounded assumption based on a non-provable opinion.

 

LOL...when you reminded me that "being irresponsible wasnt illegal" . Why dont people do things that are illegal? (most people anyway)
They dont want to have to deal wiht the consequences of that action.

We do force responsibility when it comes to children. Let yours run out in traffic, or let one sleep outside on the corner and see what the law says to you. Leave drugs on the table... betcha DSS shows up and takes them away.

Disagree.
Everyone knows the risks involved. It's up to noone else to soften those consequences for them. You take the risk, live with the known consequences.

 

What elephant is that? Are you introducing a false assumption in an attempt to pretend that you hold a superior moral position?

 

Well then, produce the massive amount of scientific research that you're now claiming.

 

300k was documented thank you. Keep in mind thats only Planned Parenthood...theres other providers of course.

Sure,

http://www.nrlc.org/archive/news/2003/NRL01/randy.html





As I said Convenience made the figures skyrocket.

 

"live with the known consequences" Why?

Do you enjoy masochism?


And no one is forced to accept responsibility...lots of people choose to let their children run anywhere, people choose to leave drugs and guns where children can get them. No one can force them to do otherwise. Yes, they may pay the penalty if caught but still no one can force them to be "responsible".

 

WTF are you talking about? Why not start over and tell me what it is that you think and point out where you think I am wrong. That is the basis of debate.

 

OK.

http://www.princeton.edu/~prolife/articles/embryoquotes2.html

 

Nope, but when you live with the consequences of your actions...you learn responsibility.

Thats the real problem with your crowd isnt it Fox. Dont feel you should be responsible for anything...lifes all about having fun right?

The penalty is good enough for those who refuse to be responsible. If we have no penalty, we encourage and welcome a loss of responsibility.

 

The daily meeting of the Misogynist Club must've started...


You obviously have no idea of just who gets abortions, or how long abortions have been around, or what "science" says today about abortion or much of anything else...., you even think those "immature girls" get themselves pregnant, right??

 

I am very responsible, I do not wallow in my mistakes , I fix them...that's what responsible people do.

Only idiots savor their mistakes and beat themselves up with them....that's masochism...it's a psychological defect.

 

Killing a baby isn't fixing anything. It's an irresponsible persons way out of being responsible for their actions. If thats your answer, you are not a responsible person at all.



And a big chukle with the car vs baby comparison.

It falls flat because even if you gave up on the car, you could get the very same exact one to replace it. A human is unique. Each one you kill will not have one you can take to replace it.

 

I don't never mentioned killing a baby .....and lying and accusing someone of that could get your post removed.

I think it's very responsible for someone to have an abortion if they can't afford and don't want a child , that's also very beneficial to the prospective child....or don't you care what kind of life they'll have after they're born, I guess not. You want them born to what you call irresponsible people!

Humans aren't unique , they're all over the place and one is pretty much like another...and if they're never born it just really doesn't mater if they are or not.

 

That doesn't take away from the concept of ownership, the baby inside her certainly doesn't own it. But as I said when you can sell it for sex and induce drugs into it and sell the parts let me know.

 

if you were drifting off to other meanings in your rebuttals, you should have added a disclaimer. We have been talking about just that for pages.

Pure lunacy. Newborn babies are quite popular with adoption. Very benefiical to the child....to be killed??? Yeah, thats a whopper Fox.

Humans certainly are unique, now you're just posting silly crap for the sake of posting and defending bad analogies. By the way, the second 2 lines, really take away your faux outrage over my response in the first.

 

You never have any rebuttals, no answers, just ranting insults.....

I have no "outrage" real or false....


If newborn babies are so popular why aren't more adopted...rememeber these "loving " adoptive parents need to have white and perfect newborns.


And going through 9 months of pregnancy, the medical effects and the cost is not always an option for some women especially if they're poor....

AND these women do NOT owe anyone proof of their Certificate of Responsibility...no one... and YOU don't either....isn't Freedom and Liberty great ?!?!

 

Very well then, I accept that you concede the point. You lose.

 

Please. I always have rebuttals and answers. The real problem you have with me is I dont accept liberal BS masquerading as any of those and call you on it.

You seemed pretty irked when you threatened that my post would be deleted.

Cmon now....did we need the "White" part? Going to be throwing in the ole race card while we're at it? Thats usually the sign someones out of steam.

Those poor people are getting subsidised insurance, and welfare, and EBT etc etc etc if theyre really poor. Even newer than that is Obamacare, to make sure that people like that do...on my dime.
Sorry the cost argument is a non starter.

As long as human lives arent at risk, then sure. When they are however societies try and protect them. Isnt that great?

 

Given the fact that I am supporting individual rights and freedoms, I don't see how I'm not being libertarian.

Are you operating under the delusion that only democrats support abortion?

 

So the fact that the government violates ownership rights now makes those violations morally correct and justifies further violations?

 

Lives ARE at risk when Freedom and Liberty are taken from half the population.....