Bachmann supports Christian Fundamentalism?

Kranes56 · Sep 1, 2011

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Later that year, they experienced a second life-altering event: they watched a series of films by the evangelist and theologian Francis Schaeffer called “How Should We Then Live?”
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Francis Schaeffer instructed his followers and students at L’Abri that the Bible was not just a book but “the total truth.” He was a major contributor to the school of thought now known as Dominionism, which relies on Genesis 1:26, where man is urged to “have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.” Sara Diamond, who has written several books about evangelical movements in America, has succinctly defined the philosophy that resulted from Schaeffer’s interpretation: “Christians, and Christians alone, are Biblically mandated to occupy all secular institutions until Christ returns.”
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Schaeffer “was a tremendous philosopher,” Bachmann told me. “He wrote marvellous books and was very inspirational.” She said that Schaeffer “took Christianity beyond the Bible,” and that he showed “how the application of living according to Christian principles has helped the culture for the better.” She added
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Today, one of the leading proponents of Schaeffer’s version of Dominionism is Nancy Pearcey, a former student of his and a prominent creationist. Her 2004 book, “Total Truth: Liberating Christianity from Its Cultural Captivity,” teaches readers how to implement Schaeffer’s idea that a Biblical world view should suffuse every aspect of one’s life. She tells her readers to be extremely cautious with ideas from non-Christians. There may “be occasions when Christians are mistaken on some point while nonbelievers get it right,” she writes in “Total Truth.” “Nevertheless, the overall systems of thought constructed by nonbelievers will be false—for if the system is not built on Biblical truth, then it will be built on some other ultimate principle. Even individual truths will be seen through the distorting lens of a false world view.”
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When, in 2005, the Minneapolis Star Tribune asked Bachmann what books she had read recently, she mentioned two: Ann Coulter’s “Treason,” a jeremiad that accuses liberals of lacking patriotism, and Pearcey’s “Total Truth,” which Bachmann told me was a “wonderful” book.
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That also was another profound influence on Marcus’s life and my life, because we understood that the God of the Bible isn’t just about Bible stories and about Bible knowledge, or about just church on Sunday. He is the Lord of all of life. Every bit of life, including sociology, theology, biology, politics. You name the area and walk of life. He is the Lord of life. And so, as we went back to our studies, we looked at studying in a completely different light. Not for the purpose of a career but for a purpose of wondering, How does this fit into creation? How does this fit into the code and all of life that is about to come in front of us? And so we had new eyes that were opened up as we understood life now from a Biblical world view.
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The next fall, at Marcus’s suggestion, Bachmann enrolled at the new O. W. Coburn School of Law, at Oral Roberts University, in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
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The first issue of the law review, Journal of Christian Jurisprudence, explains the two goals of the school: “to equip our students with the ability to bring God’s healing power to reconcile individuals and to restore community wholeness,” and “to restore law to its historic roots in the Bible.”
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The law review published essays by Schaeffer and Rousas John Rushdoony, a prominent Dominionist who has called for a pure Christian theocracy in which Old Testament law—execution for adulterers and homosexuals, for example—would be instituted. In a 1982 essay in the law review, Rushdoony condemned the secularization of public schools and declared, “With the coming collapse of humanistic statism, the Christian must prepare to take over, he must prepare for victory.”
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Eidsmoe explained to me how the Coburn School of Law, in the years that Bachmann was there, wove Christianity into the legal curriculum. “Say we’re talking in criminal law, and we get to the subject of the insanity defense,” he said. “Well, Biblically speaking, is there such a thing as insanity and is it a defense for a crime? We might look back to King David when he’s captured by the Philistines and he starts frothing at the mouth, playing crazy and so on.” When Biblical law conflicted with American law, Eidsmoe said, O.R.U. students were generally taught that “the first thing you should try to do is work through legal means and political means to get it changed.”
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“Christianity and the Constitution” is ostensibly a scholarly work about the religious beliefs of the Founders, but it is really a brief for political activism. Eidsmoe writes that America “was and to a large extent still is a Christian nation,” and that “our culture should be permeated with a distinctively Christian flavoring.” When I asked him if he believed that Bachmann’s views were fully consistent with the prevailing ideology at O.R.U. and the themes of his book, he said, “Yes.” Later, he added, “I do not know of any way in which they are not.”
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Bachmann has not, however, distanced herself, and she has long described her work for Eidsmoe as an important part of her résumé. This spring, she told a church audience in Iowa, “I went down to Oral Roberts University, and one of the professors that had a great influence on me was an Iowan named John Eidsmoe. He’s from Iowa, and he’s a wonderful man. He has theology degrees, he has law degrees, he’s absolutely brilliant. He taught me about so many aspects of our godly heritage.”
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The more Bachmann talks about God, the more she is likely to be asked about Schaeffer, Eidsmoe, Noebel, and some of the other exotic influences on her thinking. The success of her campaign will rest partly on her ability to keep these influences, which she has talked about for years, out of the public discussion. As I started getting deeper into a conversation with her about Schaeffer, she abruptly ended the interview. She said she had to leave for an appearance on “Hannity” but would try to set up another time to talk. I didn’t hear from her again. Her press secretary later told me that Bachmann “wasn’t comfortable with the line of questions, and that’s why there wasn’t a follow-up conversation.”
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So my question is, based upon her role models, her actual words, and her training, do you believe that Bachmann is pushing for Christian Fundamentalism?

Libhater · Sep 1, 2011

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So my question is, based upon her role models, her actual words, and her training, do you believe that Bachmann is pushing for Christian Fundamentalism?
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I sure hope so. It might mean no more secularism/atheism, multiculturalism, socialism, liberalism, progressivism, statism, marxism, feminazism and communism. Imagine how great a cleansing of the soul that would be. You couldn't get any more American than that!

Kranes56 · Sep 1, 2011

Libhater said: ↑

I sure hope so. It might mean no more secularism/atheism, multiculturalism, socialism, liberalism, progressivism, statism, marxism, feminazism and communism. Imagine how great a cleansing of the soul that would be. You couldn't get any more American than that!
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I have two thoughts now.

1. You're trolling.

2. You don't like the consuition and want to see it crash and burn.

IrishLefty · Sep 1, 2011

Libhater said: ↑

I sure hope so. It might mean no more secularism/atheism, multiculturalism, socialism, liberalism, progressivism, statism, marxism, feminazism and communism. Imagine how great a cleansing of the soul that would be. You couldn't get any more American than that!
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Do you support the GOP no matter what?

Margot · Sep 1, 2011

Libhater said: ↑

I sure hope so. It might mean no more secularism/atheism, multiculturalism, socialism, liberalism, progressivism, statism, marxism, feminazism and communism. Imagine how great a cleansing of the soul that would be. You couldn't get any more American than that!
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Have you read into the history of christian fundamentalism?

toddwv · Sep 1, 2011

Libhater said: ↑

I sure hope so. It might mean no more secularism/atheism, multiculturalism, socialism, liberalism, progressivism, statism, marxism, feminazism and communism. Imagine how great a cleansing of the soul that would be. You couldn't get any more American than that!
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Why does your vision of America sound exactly like Iran?

Margot · Sep 1, 2011

toddwv said: ↑

Why does your vision of America sound exactly like Iran?
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Yep.. it does sound like a one party theocracy.. JUST like Iran.

JavaBlack · Sep 1, 2011

Kranes56 said: ↑

So my question is, based upon her role models, her actual words, and her training, do you believe that Bachmann is pushing for Christian Fundamentalism?
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I don't believe in guilt by association or that one's training automatically shapes one a certain way for life (we do continue living after all, and in many spheres).

But every time I hear her speak, I do get the sense that she is pushing Christian fundamentalism (either because she believes in it or because she knows this is how to get vots from the right-wing base).

Libhater · Sep 1, 2011

toddwv said: ↑

Why does your vision of America sound exactly like Iran?
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How so?...............

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