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BBC Presenter killed by Vaccine

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The clot shots are taking more than the virus itself, as planned.
     
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    And what are my chances of a hemorrhage if I get that shot?
     
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    I just started a new thread that is related to your question, based upon interpretation of the data gathered by Dr. Hoffe in Canada.

    As is the case with most drugs, individual differences in bodily chemistry and other factors seem to be also playing a role in how some people are fine after the shot, while others become ill and some die from the shot.
     
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    Just wondering because the article linked in the OP said that such deaths were "extremely rare." But the data isn't very clear and I also wonder how those deaths compare to all other vaccines for all other illnesses.

    I agree that individual differences determine how we react to the shot, but are those pre-existing factors well known?
     
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    I hope you will check out America's Frontline Doctors. America's Frontline Doctors (americasfrontlinedoctors.org)

    A short summary is that more patients have died from the clot shots in 8 months than have died from all other drugs/shots combined since the record keeping began in about 1990.

    I think the factor of increase is 20 or 30 times.
     
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    Would that have something to do with the vaccines being the most common shots given these days?
     
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    These shots are nothing like vaccines. These are engineered biotech. Literally nothing is known about long term adverse issues.
     
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    Source?
     
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    This certainly proves, if you got the shot, that you were not fully informed before getting it.
     
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    Again, is there a source for this facially bogus claim?
     
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    No, it doesn't.

    What's the source for your bogus claim?
     
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    If you don’t know this it proves you have not been informed.
     
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    Statistically speaking, extremely low, but I'd avoid AstraZeneca and Johnson and Johnson vaccines.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56674796
     
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    According to the article in BBC, such complication is very rare. In the end of the day, almost any drug can kill you, even statins, which are used my millions of Americans.
     
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    Typo - "my" instead of "by".
     
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    ---said the lady who makes it up as she goes.
     
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    Bet you are not aware these treatments are not approved by the FDA and are biotech never before use on the public.
     
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    Thanks. I actually got my shots long ago. I was just pointing out the statistical comparison was not there.
     
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    I might be tempted to wait for the long-term statistics, but the virus rages on.
     
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    taking a trip on a plane has clot risks, yes, putting a needle in your arm does too, though rare, it sadly happens

    trying to twist this and say more die from the vaccine then the virus is pure garbage
     
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    It's an emotional story, just like the news media is so fond of parading in front of the public.

    If I read about someone dying a horrible death from Covid, why should I be the slightest bit moved? I can use your same logic.
     
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    this was not one of the newer mRNA vaccines
     
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    Astrazenica and J&J are both engineered.
     
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    but they are not the mRNA vaccines
     
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