I have waited and watched.Over the past couple-3 years I have watched at one very nice Liquor store with a fantastic wine selection as GenXer's flock in and buy those expensive craft beers with the really whacked-out names and graphic sticker showing days of old with some Evil character with cape or Rasputin beard,stands proudly alongside some barn or camp site befitting a coven of warlock as they pitch their magic ingredients into cauldren,waiting & watching..Like I said ... Like I have done. Difference being is ... I know of where I speak,I don't think most GenXer's have the capability to comprehend what Life offers.Therefore the need to spend what obvious little disposable income they have on,Like I said,really expensive Beer with Way,over the top names and Witchy graphics. Then of course it starts to make sense.They are basically today's nouveau Liberals.Anal retentive to a fault.Very contrarian and willing to defend their chosen craft or polemic.Meaning they aren't real Americans as I knew growing up. I mean,lets be really clear here.I don't think for the life of me,any FATHER in my youth would even admit if they tried some Pumkpin ale or Lager. Yet that is what I saw a young man and girlfriend { in their late 20's} purchase and carefully scan at my Kroger's in the self-check aisle. Some weird looking 6-pack with near halloween sketching of a Pumpkin ale. I had to do a double take.Everywhere I look now in the Big city there's Pumkin beer of some sort. Now these same GenXer's who spent like ... 600 % more on beer than their Father's ever would,now have their little Nazi Beer review sites to show the world how far along the average Beer schmuck has progressed.Now these Beer Nazi can just show you Their Papers or Reviews and by golly that ends it. Or cite Beer Advocate.What on God's Green Earth happened to just the simple,unoffensive way Real American Men,and Father's handled this Beer thing. Step up to a Bar and order a Draught or bottle of beer.Let yer taste buds be the guide. No need at all for fancy words to complicate things like Aroma and feeling on the front then the middle and finally the back of the tongue. This is such grotesque cartoonishness.I remember a few years ago seeing an old 50's Beer Tavern sign that lights up.It had the head of a Man drinking a nice foamy,golden pilsner.The guy's head was like a football player.Sturdy and clean-cut and with a crew cut.A real Man,an athlete.With a caption ... GO FOR THE GUSTO. Those days are long gone. We know have these little puke,weakling-looking,anal-retentive and overtly wordy GenXer's doing the quaffing.Well not exactly.They'd ruther spend time talking about their pumpkin beer than actually pulling back a schooner and wiping the suds like my grandpappy.
My only issue with beer snobs is the smugness, near contempt towards someone who may order a Bud Light or Millers...as though the World just ended. It's beer...not a vintage cognac. You can polish the turd all you want...but it's still a beer.
Yeah ... gotta love these Nouveau Beer Nazi.I mean,where else can one find some bratty new kid on the block who probably drank enough beer to fill the average dinghy { actually that isn't very much } yet manages to speak with such uber authority to other,far more experienced beer drinker's who have quaffed enough suds to sink a small Bismark.There's just something far more noble and Americans is being a loyal One Beer fan.At least that person knows what he likes and is content. These little New Wave,GenX Beer Nazi now have a fitting pasttime to find something to gripe about.Like how come their Pumpkin Ale isn't orange enough.Or has that occassional burnt pumpkin seed aroma,udderwise masking a truly fine offering. Fit for a real Pumpkin head Beer aficionado. Oh boy Oh Boy Mommy.I can't wait to try Daddy's new Pumpkin cigars.
Well,I've proven one thing.If there ARE any Beer Snobs here at PF they certainly have a difficult time building any concensus.
Uncle Ferd's g/f would have to carry him... Win your wife's weight in beer at the North American Wife Carrying Championship September 27, 2012 - This is better than couples therapy.
I disagree with your narrative, here. Beer can be just as complex, if not more so, than "vintage cognac", wine, or any other kind of liquor. In fact, considering that the flavor of beer is affected by the water used, the hops, the malt, the yeast, the fermentation temperature, and plenty of other factors, there is the potential for a wider range of nuances than can be found in other kinds of alcohol. Beer can be as simple or as complex as you'd like, just like with anything else. The general perception of beer might be closer in line to what you seem to suggest, but that really doesn't mean anything.
agreed even though we don't agree much, beer is not meant to be tasty, its meant to get a buzz some guys can capture a small niche market, and pander to 'fine wine' of beers, like sam adams, but its all a fantasy, in their idealist minds.
Beer would be a horrible choice if your goal was simply to get a buzz going. You can get drunk faster and cheaper with bottom-rack house brand vodka, the stuff in the plastic containers. You'll also stay drunk longer, since you aren't consuming tons of water like you are with beer, which flushes out the alcohol quicker.
Absolutely Incorect.Wine has and will always remain the most complex of things that a mouth can imbibe.Plus there are FAR more wines than beer.Take an obvious fact. Most beer is not meant for aging.Most wine IS. There are more kinds of Wine { Varietal } than Beer.Beer is basically grouped into Pilsner,Lager,Ale,Stout {Porter}.Technically there are only 2.Which use different yeast. Ale yeast for Top Fermenting in slightly higher temperature. Lager yeast for Bottom fermenting at cooler temperatures. There are now numerous Speciality beers.Which are basically extensions of either a Lager or an Ale.
A vintage bottle of cognac can go for $5,000.00 or more... You're drinking history...something someone bottled 150 years ago. I have no idea why anyone would compare that experience to what some beer schlub is doing with his $5.00 glass of micro-brewed beer "Pumpkin Pilsner Stout Ale" made 24 hours ago... acting high and mighty over the lowly Bud Light crowd. It's still just a beer.
Wrong again.So I guess if one drinks a 6-pack of Miller or even Molsen they're OK because Beer has water in it or was Brewed with water. WRONG ... Couldn't be more Inaccurate.Drink a 6-pack of any beer any your body gets dehydrated.You will need to drink some water to rehydrate yer body or suffer the pangs of a hangover.The more beer the worse the hangover.A Hangover is yer bodies way of telling you,that you drank too much alcohol and have dehydrated yer body.Meaning yer blood has less oxygen in it due to the alc. eating away the blood's oxygen molecules. Certain fruits like oranges,grapefruit and banana's help ward off the effects of too much alcohol.That is why Hunter Thompson { World renown Drinker } always ordered mass quantities of side dishes with his meals along with 3 or 4 grapefruit,oranges etc.
There really aren't Vintage bottles of Cognac.Don't forget Cognac is a blend.From one district in France using a special process of double distillation using copper pot stills. The more aged a Cognac the more it is valued and priced.So an expensive cognac will blend older cognacs and so forth.The lowest grade Cognac is VS { Very Special } using blends of Cognac at least 2 years old in cask where XO { Extra Old } uses blends between 6 and 20 years old. There are only certain grapes that can be used in order to be classified as a Cognac.The Major Cognac houses are similar with regard to the VS but differ more as the price level escalates.You will not find any Bottle of Cognac with a Vintage date as say one would a Fine Port.Cognac is a blend of different years.
I disagree with your opinion. There are far more styles than the ones you listed, and there are many, many strains of both ale and lager yeast, all of which give a different flavor profile to the beer. There are also quite a few styles of beer that require aging, by the way.
So what? Pure ignorance. Feel free to point out a beer that can be made in 24 hours. And a Pilsner can't be a stout, by the way. One is a lager while the other is an ale.
Most beer doesn't benefit from an aging process so the whole comparison is meaningless. Enjoy what you want, but beer isn't just 'beer', like brewskier said, because of how the ingredients impact the outcome beer can be just as, if not more nuanced than bourbon or wine.
6 Millers would be equivalent to 72 oz of beer. In those 72 oz, there is only about 3-4 oz of alcohol. Most of the remaining volume is water, and you will be going to the bathroom often with that much liquid in your system. Going to the bathroom helps flush out the alcohol and removes it from your system faster. Contrast this with hard alcohol, which has very little water, and absorbs into your system faster due to the higher concentration of alcohol. The result is that you get drunk faster, and stay drunk longer.
What makes Wine so Great is the aging in Oak barrels.French Oak. One of the highest rated Beer comes from Michigan and is aged for a year in bourbon soaked barrels.Founder's Kentucky Breakfast Stout.It sells out in mere hours every year. That is one huge difference between Beer and Wine.Beer is very rarely put in Oak Barrels.
I assume you are talking about Ennis and Gunn? I still don't understand why so many unnecessary carriage returns.
Beer is still beer...and a beer schlub is still a beer schlub. It's a working class drink...which there is absolutely nothing wrong with being... the beer snobs have ruined it.
Isn't this kinda Ironic fun.In the 60's a Beer Connoisseur was one who drank and bragged about Carlsberg and Heineken or even Lowenbrau. All Beers now considered as skunky low grade by Beer Advocates and the like.
It sounds like the only true snob here is you. You think you're better than "working class" beer drinkers with your $5,000 bottles of cognac, and you resent them for not acting like the Nascar swill-drinking stick figures that you've created in your mind.
I'm a Liquor SNOB.Also a Political Snob.I feel my Politics is superior to those of the Liberal persuasion. I drink and enjoy Cognac.In fact,I love the stuff.But it was learned.Took years.It's what is considered an " acquired taste ". I also drink Vodka,but do not love.And Lordey knows I've tried.Some things just are. I took to beer pretty early on.Drank my first beer as a Senior in High school Kinda late to drinking.Didn't appreciate beer till a Frosh in College.Stiil didn't like it all that much.Not until my sophomore year and I would walk 30 minutes from off campus to a local bar { Dottie's } that had Stroh's on draft.Man ... like I could drink that stuff and dream of things like having more money to be able to just do it every night.Smoking a joint on my long walk back to off campus housing.
