Ben Carson designs patriotic lessons for schoolchildren, says parents ‘horrified’ by left-wing indoc

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  1. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    Nobody said that honest teaching of our history is CRT.

    Make up their own minds? It is straight up indoctrination.
     
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    If we could poll every single black person of voting age in this country. 18-80 on selective issues this is how I think they would answer.

    1. How many unarmed black men are killed by police every year?
    I think the average would be in the 1000-2000 range. Real number is closer to 20. In total 200 blacks are killed by police every year and around 180 of them are armed.

    2. How many lynchings of blacks take place every year in the USA?
    In my opinion the average black person would say hundreds.
    In reality none.


    3. What percentage of white people have ancestors who owned slaves?
    Average black person would say 50% or more.
    Reality, not even 1%.

    4.
    How many blacks die every year due to climate change?
    How would they answer that? Hundreds of millions?
    Reality hardly any.

    There are many more but that is enough. So many lies kids are thought about climate change, the police and our history.

    Ask black people if the United states invented slavery in 1619. Ask black people to explain the 3/5 rule.

    It is a combination of teachers, media and democrat politicians pushing the same big lies over and over.
     
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    That about sums it up. It’s all about building up collective feelings of guilt to then press for reparations for every perceived slight.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep. Cant debate the issue, just make it about "hatred of America". Thats always be the way to deny debate, when you cant debate, is to claim it "un-american".
     
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    BS. We ALL learned it when we went to school. The rigth in this country wants to whitewash our own history. Its embarrassingly transparent.
     
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    Patently false.
     
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    Well you said it so it must be true ;)
     
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    Everything that I say is true. I’m glad that you finally were able to figure that out! You should just :truce:now.
     
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    It is not hatred. Unfortunately, some people want to ignore the past, the lessons from the past, because it makes them feel "uncomfortable." How else can you accurately discuss Jim Crow laws, slavery, Japanese internment, and other policies after the attack on WW2, the Chinese Exclusion Act, the 1924 Immigration Act, The Cherokee trail of Tears and the Indian Wars, the Holocaust, and the list goes on and on? The simple fact is you guys don't want this to be taught, no matter what the reason. You try to make the argument that it is "hatred" not realizing that the same argument is also hatred as well, at least in its foundation.

    If you want to teach history accurately, you need to teach all of it. The good, the bad, and the very ugly. And yes, that includes some very uncomfortable aspects of our history. That does not mean we teach it to blame all people today, but it still needs to be taught. Otherwise, we are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past, as we have done time and time again with every immigrant group that has come into this country.
     
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    Actually, that is exactly what you are saying, just in a very round about way, especially when you have laws like in Florida and Texas that really cannot teach about race.

    The "buzz word" you use is indoctrination. What you really want is your version of "his story" and not teach history.
     
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    It is you that wants your indoctrination version taught instead of real actual history. Our kids will never know your version of it come what may. We will get it out via governors or school boards or we will send our kids to private schools when we can not and if elite private schools teach it we will home school them using on line or Hillsdale College alternative curriculum. CRT and 1619 will never ever be learned by a great number of American kids.
     
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    For starters, I am not a fan of Project 1619, nor am I a fan of Trump's take of history called "Patriotic Education." Both are wrong and do not get the history correct on a lot of things. At the same time, the mondern conservatives have gone overboard with this idea not to teach race as much as possible. A lot of history does have race as its implications, but it also has other things. To ignore one aspect for political purposes is by definition indoctrination and that is exactly what you guys want. You don't want actual history to be taught, or science or anything else for that matter. You want the Hollywood version of glamor and glory and hope that will not get the young people to ask questions or to think for themselves.

    If I were to change primary and secondary education, I would teach all the children discernment and critical thinking. And if young people are taught discernment and crticical thinking, then young people would not fall into the political party lines of any political party here in the United States. And that is a good thing, except for modern conservatives and progressives.
     
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    What history do you think I do not want kids to learn?
     
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    Nobody is talking about not teaching negative events in our history. Has anybody(You guys) said this?

    All you seem to care about is the negative history like Michelle Obama bitching about living in the white house that was built by slaves.
     
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    I'm sure that Mr. Benjamin Carson's extensive background in US history and child education will serve him well.

    Regards, stay safe 'n well 'n remember the Big 5.
     
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    Meanwhile progressive public health "experts" have sex at gay pride parades and blame the government when they get monkey pox and gonorrhea. These are the kind of "experts" progressives want teaching our children. The kind that have unprotected sex with multiple random people in depraved orgies with no regard for STDs.

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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...t-loud-in-pain-my-two-weeks-of-monkeypox-hell


    Subverting the culture of a nation for a billionaire is not "philanthropy", it is evil. Engaging in dangerous sexual activities does not make you sexual health expert, it makes you a pleasure seeking selfish idiot.
     
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    ahhh...the "moral" position has no basis in reality.

    Have a nice day
     
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    Except you cannot understand the reason why it happened unless you talk about race. If you do not or will not talk about race with these events, like the Florida and Texas laws stipulate, then you really just give students the dates and who was interned, but that is not history, just a regurgitation of dates.
     
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    Neither side does a stellar job of teaching our history, but that is perhaps because they want to distill everything down to multiple choice and short answers on the tests.
     

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