Ben Carson: U.S. shouldn't elect a Muslim president

Washington (CNN)Ben Carson says the United States should not elect a Muslim president.

Obviously my opinion is that this is GENIUS! But I have to hear from my fellow republicans, who are ultimately going to decide whether this guy should be nominated for President.

Is being a Muslim inherently inconsistent with the Constitution?

 

APACHERAT says the United States should not elect a community organizer President.

 

There is going to be a lot of raging about this one calling him a bigot.

It is curious that all candidates talk about their religion - and few talk more about his religion than has President Obama and what it means to him and how it directly guides him as president, but then it is declared bigotry to consider anything any candidate says about their religion and how it affects there decision as totally irrelevant and not to be mentioned by voters or people in considering candidates.

 

Like any religion, it depends on how radical they are. A moderate muslim would be better than a Christian who bombs abortion clinics or is eager to bomb muslim countries without provocation.

 

That's because it's a reflection of bigotry.

 

Carson is still too liberal on many issues for my liking. But he is quite correct that Islam is not compatible with democracy. Islam is primarily a political system of Sharia laws, and secondarily a religion or faith.

 

Well Islam isn't compatible with Western Civilization.

 

This is truly amazing. Thank you.

 

"Bigot" ?

Is that the right word you are looking for ?

The word bigot has been corrupted by political correctness revisionism. It's one of the most misinterpreted words in the English language just like the lVX Amendment is the most misinterpreted Amendment in the Constitution.

Governor "Moonbeam" Brown and Al Gore and all of the other global changing fanatics are all bigots.

The men of cloth, all of the reverends, pastors, priest are all religious bigots.

The old 65 year old guy who since 1965 who would buy a Ford F-150 pick up every three years and refuses to drive or buy any other make of truck except a Ford F-150 is a bigot.

So race has nothing to do with most of the bigots in the world. Just saying.

 

Good for Carson. I am glad somebody said something about the elephant in the room. Muslims have had lots of protection from the PC, so this subject is ripe for picking. I am surprised that Trump hasn't already run with this.

 

Hate Muslims!
Bad!!

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Does any American have a favorable opinion of Muslims after 9/11?
Doubtful.

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Not at all.

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Because famatic Christians are bombing abortion clinics left and right.
I'll take my chances with the Baptists ANY DAY.

 

Let see, probably Barack Obama, Valerie Jarrett there might be a few more.

 

so Ben Carson thinks there should be a religious test.... wasn't long ago some would of said there should be racial or gender tests....

 

I love that Carson couldn't care less what the left has to say about him... and thins like this prove it.

But if one were to think about his comment, instead of obsessing over him, they would realize that the Muslims believe their religion is a big part of their politics. Not what the left accuse the Christians of... but a very big part.
And that lying is perfectly OK if it furthers their cause (admired by much of the left, but still wrong).

But of course... the people who want religion out of politics are OK with this, if it means they can vilify a Christian for pointing it out.

 

Carson sounds like an idiot if he really thinks that everyone who professes a religion actually follows it....I guess he believes christians never do anything wrong....


And isn't there some little blurb about not having a religious test to hold office???

 

He said that ?

 

No more than being a Christian or Jew does.

This is clearly based on the stereotypical image so many people (especially so many Americans) have of Muslims as all being devout, extremist terrorist sympathisers. The reality is that Muslims are just as diverse, varied and often internally conflicted as Christians (or pretty much any other faith). Whether you chose to believe it or not, there are loads of moderate, passive, secular Muslims who are perfectly capable of being (and in some cases are) legitimate politicians and legislators.

 

I am surprised that his Republican opponents haven't accused Trump of being a Muslim and used his inability to quote a favorite Bible passage as proof of his Muslimness.

 

I'm not.... since I don't know of any that would behave that way.

 

"Is being a Muslim inherently inconsistent with the Constitution?" Absolutely not. We have freedom of religion in this country according to the Constitution which covers all religions and even those with no religion to worship how they see fit.

Now I am a Reform Party Member, not a Republican but I think you meant to ask about being a Muslim and becoming president. If a Muslim candidate's ideals, visions, solutions to our problems are consistent with mine and of course the Constitution, I would have no problem voting for him and thus him becoming president. Not all Muslim's want to impose sharia law upon the world. There are Muslim's serving in our armed forces and they are as loyal to the constitution and our country and its set of ideals as those of any other religion or no religion.

We have and I include myself in this have a habit of speaking in generalities. Usually that is enough to get a point across although it may not be always be accurate and one must specify. As long as any individual candidate, president does what is best for this nation, religion or the lack thereof shouldn't mean a darn thing.

 

Either you are naive to what Islam actually teaches or you are deliberately misrepresenting it. The concerns have nothing to do with terrorists, but the core beliefs that would drive some to terrorism are the same beliefs that make the religion incomparable with Western democracy. Islam is not a philosophy centered about individual living or behavior, so your appeals to the diversity or passivity of some Muslims are no consolation to the dangers a professing Muslim in the White House would present.

 

If the Muslim is a devout follower of Sharia law he would be. Don't you agree? Could a devout Muslim who follows Sharia put their belief behind the Constitution an dour laws?

 

No I think he just gave his opinion about Sharia law and the Constitution. Do you find them compatible?

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Would you vote for a Muslim candidate who professed the devout following of Sharia law and that is how they would govern?

 

We're not talking about what "Islam teaches", we're talking about what Muslims do. Most Muslims, certainly most Western Muslims, live their day-to-day lives very much like most Christians, ignoring the casual contradictions or breeches by the literal interpretation of their faith.

The fact is that there are plenty of Muslims who could be President without any practical issues in relation to their religion and equally there are some Christians who would cause all sorts of problems for the same reason. The suitability of an individual should be judged on the merits and flaws of that individual. Dismissing a vast group of people for the role simply on the basis of their professed (or purported) religion is simply wrong. After all, isn't that one of the key principles of your Constitution?

 

Could a devout follower of the Bible? Could a devout Christian who follows the instructions of the Bible including but not limited prohibitions against sleeping with another man's slave and eating shellfish be President?