Berkeley Antifa Protest Turns Violent As ‘Anti-Fascists’ Swarm Park [VIDEO]

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  1. MegadethFan

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    And therefore your solution is...?
     
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    You make it sound like no right wingers support antifa and that no left wingers are helping. Both insinuations are wrong I'd say, especially the latter, which is really just a comment in poor taste.
     
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    Those weren't the questions I answered.

    No its not the cops job to facilitate protests, its the protestors job. Its pretty obvious antifa wasn't there to protest, they were there to riot.

    Law and Order is the cops job, and they failed in Charlottesville, personally I think those cops were told by the mayor to allow the mayhem to continue so the media can cry on TV.
     
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    duh, subdue and arrest all the rioters.
     
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    They pushed the permitted protesters into the counter protesters then stood down.
     
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    So basically they had to force a sort of tactical retreat. I guess that's probably fair if the crowds were large and disparate as I understand they were. Still, that being said, you'd hope the next rally is a bit better catered for by police.
     
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    Indeed, they were sarcastic responses to what struck my as asinine comments.

    Wrong. The cops are there to ensure law and order, which involves facilitating public events - ESPECIALLY protests. That is why you seek a permit, give an expected headcount, describe the activities planned, routes to take, time and place etc etc etc.

    I agree, hence why police are needed. Get it?

    Why do you think that?
     
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    LOL I agree but that's MUCH easier said than done. As 'lofty' as your idea is, its just not a practical or reasonable solution - especially when you dont even expect police to be able to facilitate a safe protest haha. Have you ever been to a protest turned violent? Its extremely hard to control or resolve even when it is localised and I its almost always impossible to "subdue and arrest all the rioters". Its much better to prevent it in the first place.
     
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    Yes, I don't expect the police to protest, I think that's pretty obvious.
     
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    But unfortunately beside the point since they dont need to protest - but they ARE needed to FACILITATE protests. Ill take your response as a very clear 'no, never' to my question.
     
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    Put sheriff arpaio in charge of policng antifa
     
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    Its not about ******n antifa. Why are these protests so disorderly? In Melbourne we have nutjobs on both sides. Cops come in, pepperspray 30 people, beat a few more, send a few horses in. Its all over in an hour or two. You guys have a protest, gets out of hand and doesnt end until someone drives a car into a crowd of people.
     
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    I can't comment on protest in Australia

    But in America all the protests take place in big cities policed by bedwetting liberal democrats who tell the cops to stand around with their thumbs up their ass

    Now the anarchists are having so much fun they can't wait till the next riot begins
     
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    this is what happens after two or three generations of liberal culture in the media and our public schools
     
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    We dont tolerate antifa types from either side. Its not a matter of blaming left or right for us - protests shouldnt involve violence.

    Aside from your own opinion do have any evidence for that?

    But why is this the case. Its not enough to simply point the finger at "the left" especially since virtually all high profile democrats etc have condemned the violence.
     
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    Who that loves the Constitution, the Declaration, our Freedom and Liberty, supports Antifa, and on what possible basis would they support these terrorist thugs or their tactics?
     
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    What happens? Violent protest? Didnt the South have lynchings as a form of protest? Mate, I think you should keep your partisan bs to yourself.
     
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    Youre saying that these "loves" are characteristics all right wingers possess? You're mistaken if you are.

    Bc they hate neo-nazis. I have no doubt there are members of antifa that identify as right wing. No doubt at all.
     
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    If they support silencing free speech, they are definitely not right wing conservatives. The first and second amendments are the core of who we are.
     
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    They most certainly can be. Conservatives call for destroying free speech all the time, attempting to limit people's forms of expression and freedom continually.

    I disagree. It might be core of YOU, but generally conservatives abide by the constitution as and when it conforms to their agenda. But I'd say thats what most do in the US, on the so-called "right" and "left"
     
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    Then they are NOT conservatives. Someone has mislabeled them.
     
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    Define conservative. I think you're sense of the word conservative is actually more akin to libertarianism or constitutionalism. Conservatism is quite different, even in the American context. The former has unfortunately piggy backed onto the latter.
     
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    Yeah. The Global Socialists have a long running war with the National Socialists. They can both take a hike as far as were are concerned. What a bunch of ignorant clowns they both are.

    Here in America our government was formed to protect our INDIVIDUAL rights, not this identity group horseshit you clowns are trying to sell us on that is turning our public squares into violence, attacks and property destruction.
     
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    I think you're sense of the word conservative is actually more akin to libertarianism or constitutionalism. Conservatism is quite different, even in the American context. The former has unfortunately piggy backed onto the latter.
     
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    Before you get up on your non sequitur high horse, can you explain how I am a "clown" "turning our public squares into violence, attacks and property destruction"? Otherwise, please refrain from making such asinine insults and keep those personal attacks to yourself. You know nothing about me and have taken no time to discern what I believe or advocate.
     
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