Biden Admin Cancels Fines For Illegal Aliens Who Fail To Leave U.S.

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  1. dairyair

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    Really? You are the 1st republican to ever agree with that.
    Every time the subject of illegal immigration comes up, that is my main go to answer. And then I get a lot of excuses for why employers hire them.
     
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    It is tax payer funded ethnic cleansing. Whites have given up their communities, towns, and cities and it is only getting worse. Any resistance is racist.
     
  3. Steve N

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    Yes, really. I don't care who the employers are, be they Trump or a guy hiring an illegal to do yard work. When I was living in CA they came up with a law requiring Home Depot, Lowes, etc to have comfort spaces for the day laborers who were waiting for work. Those spaces had to have water, bathrooms and air conditioning, it's insane.

    The only way the countries these people are escaping from are ever going to change is if they stay there and fight for it. Running to America doesn't change the corruption and other failures of those countries.
     
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    Of course you won't. Your Trump obsession clearly isn't going to subside.

    And I love how conceding after the election somehow excuses her for saying it was stolen from her. As if that makes a difference.
     
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    Since this immigrant labor has been going on for basically the entirety of this country.
    I come to the conclusion a few years back, going after employers is never going to happen. Both party politicians knows that our economy needs them to function. At least that is the conclusion I take from the lack of enforcing our laws.
    And if an immigrant lived here for 2 yrs, could apply for citizenship.

    https://www.fairus.org/legislation/reports-and-analysis/history-of-us-immigration-laws
    So, I come to another conclusion. Our laws are a problem with what our economy needs in regards to immigration.
    The real question then is, how do we deal with immigrant workers that our economy obviously needs?

    For most of our nations history, we didn't really have immigration laws, we let in most everyone who wanted to come.
     
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    You really have to be out of touch with reality to compare a comment from Clinton, 5 years after her defeat, to what Trump has done.

    Raising hundreds of millions of dollars for a national propaganda campaign to overturn the election, organizing protests around the country including one that led to a riot on Capitol Hill where Trump supporters wanted to kill the Vice President and other elected officials.

    If the justice system had been corrupt in this country, just like in Russia or Venezuela, we would be under an authoritarian regime controlled by your guru today.

    So don't make me believe that Clinton = Trump.
     
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    One way to do it is with work visas. If farmers need workers to pick their crops then we can issue temporary work visas that are only good for the season and then they have to go back. Failure to go back would result in not getting another visa. Stuff like that might work. When I lived in El Paso the brother of one of my neighbors was a Mexican national who drove long haul trucks in the US. When he would come by he was always careful about making sure he got out of the country on time because his job depended on being able to come back into the US and make more deliveries.
     
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    Wow.....lots of things that are 100% false in your post (damn near all of it). Nonsense like this won't get you a response. Your delusions are entertaining though.
     
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    Glad you find me entertaining.

    The important thing is that you and your kind have as little influence as possible on the destiny of the country.

    And that's the case right now.
     
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    IT'S OPEN BORDERS FOR DEMOCRATS.
     
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    That would be establishment republicans like Bush and rich democrats who say demeaning things like "who would do our lawns, and clean our houses if we didn't hire illegals? " Most middle class and poor Americans don't want to encourage jobs lost for them and their families by rewarding people coming across the border illegally.
     
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    So why dont we jail or penalize companies for hiring them?
    My guess is it helps both sides?
     
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    I think it has something to do with this:
    https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandto...consequences-hiring-unauthorized-workers.aspx

    Buchanan explained that the employer needs to have either actual or constructive knowledge that the individual being hired is an undocumented worker. "That's not easy to do," he said. "The law states that HR is required to accept workers' employment or identification documents if they appear genuine and relate to the person. HR is not trained to nor are they supposed to investigate phony identity documents. And prosecutors can't build a criminal case of off saying that HR should've known those documents were fake. It takes a lot more than that."
     
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    Supporting illegals garners support from the legals of those races.

    More votes from California and New York. In the rest of the country it was a close election.

    I agree. We should not support illegal criminals.

    They should have no excuses for hiring criminals.

    What's wrong with having mixed communities?

    We actually have plenty of people who can work and do those jobs. We don't need illegals for that.

    The problem is many younger people don't want to work. Kids today are spoiled and lazy and many single moms would rather have welfare. Many would rather have higher paying or clean jobs but not all.

    If American's actually tried to give these jobs to Americans who need them, are homeless or teenagers that may not know how to get a job I'm sure we could get them filled.
     
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    They should be punished for hiring illegal criminals.
     
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    Who is the real criminal?...No really....Being illegal is a misdemeanor.
    Owners...give zero tolerance, with 3 strikes and your out!
    All these work force companies are the ones playing middle men while skimming money off the top for every person they put to work, and owner just point the finger!
    Neither side wants it fixed....
     
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    Still less than 100 days in office and this senile, old, liberal jerk is already turning us into more of a shithole country than Obama did in his first 100 days.
     
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    Even trump did nothing to illegals here.
    He had companies that were caught with illegals and all those companies did was fire them. He did NOT deport them. Nor did he fire those hiring managers. Nor did he fine his company for hiring illegals.

    So, it's all republicans. And you never see the republicans push any enforcement laws on companies caught hiring illegals. Not a single one. Not even trump.
     
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    Yep....and because of that, the country gets to see what a disaster the left is. I'm fine with it....means to an end.
     
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    It isn't him. He is a puppet. They probably have Epstein dirt on him. He's taking orders, not giving them.
     
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    Why is it only a missdemeanor? That needs to change.
     
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    Sorry. Can someone please explain how Biden isn’t hanging a GIANT welcome Matt on our southern border? Holy ****! This is grounds for impeachment. He is willingly supporting criminals who murder citizen and bring Covid and other diseases. Can someone honestly make any sort of claim he is looking after citizens?
     
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    I would like to ask the left what has Biden done for Americans and America.
     
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    Beat trump.......that will be their only answer. They'll give vague responses like 'well they stopped trump from continuing to destroy the country' and then when you ask for specifically what biden has done, you won't get a straight answer, not a legitimate one anyway.
     
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    Absolutely agree. In fact I think that’s the most effective way to address it. My solution would be to impose massive fines on any company employing an illegal. Say $1,000,000 per illegal found working for their company. Then enforce those fines. Soon enough the businesses will realize that the cheap labor isn’t worth the risk of getting caught and they’ll stop hiring them.

    Then you have to take away any and all government assistance. No access to government services. No drivers licenses. Nothing.

    Most of them will go home on their own.
     
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