Biden declares himself 'blameless' if US defaults on debt: 'I've done my part'

In 2020 Biden wasnt president !!!!!!!

and FTR, I DO think that dems are overspending…….Me pointing out that it was republicans that spent 1/4 of our entire debt accumulated over 250 years is in no way support of Biden, its pointing out the FACTS of what was already spent, and who actually spent it !

But lets also be very clear…….apparently NOW the republicans have become fiscal conservatives ? Now, AFTER they spent more than any congress in history in 4 years, NOW they found their fiscal Jesus and are worried about the debt and deficit ?

BS !

 

Personally, I've been very outspoken about spending by everyone in the past. Now, AFTER they have spent like crazy, is the only time that we can stop spending. Generally, no one can go back in time and stop spending. Except that right now, they actually can. They can yank all the unspent covid money. Biden's plan is actually not even spending: It's just giving more money away to those that are already getting "free" money. If he won't negotiate then he is showing that he has absolutely no interest in lowering the deficit much less the debt. That is unacceptable and I'm sorry that anyone is ok with that.

 

And Congress can override the veto

 

I believe there is a typo in your header @spiritgide?

Are you sure it wasn't BRAINLESS
Biden declares himself 'blameless' if US defaults on debt: 'I've done my part'

 

Yes but not nearly as easily.

 

Because it is their ****ing fault. The debt was incurred. Congress authorized it with votes. Now when it's time to pay the bills the GOP says "whoa---we're spending too much"? No, damnit--pay the bills and discuss the issues at budget time not AFTER the fact.

Don't the righties understand these simple facts?

 

Not the point

 

A response to your point.

 

In this case, kind of the same difference, isn't it?

 

Let me speak slowly to you, Biden is the President, not Trump. This is 2023.

 

Well EGO, as far left as it comes just told us it can't be a President's faults because budgets are passed by house and senate. That being said, the house isn't saying they don't want to pay the debt, they are simply using leverage to ensure that Biden's budget has some financial accountability. I have zero issue with any congress trying to spend less, and hope every congress uses their leverage to get their message across and hopefully kill the outrageous spending this president is proposing. The bills will be paid, America will survive, the question is and always is, when will the enormous deficits stop?

 

FTR, Bidens plan is BS because it actually creates more Covid funding. We all know thats a slush fund for something, but its $2 TRILLION. I call BS on that !!!

Let be clear when we talk about “negotiating”. Neither side really negotiated anything, they just want to hit the other guy over the head with something to hurt them. Thats what the R’s are doing now. The D’s claim they need the money to give to the poor, and the R’s want the money to give to the rich so they can “create jobs”. Both are FOS

1. Giving money directly to the poor that isnt controlled to be spent on the defined “product” will be wasted on other dumb things.

2. Giving money to those who already have it does nothing for the economy other than increase the value of the stock market, which is not reflective of main street finances.

You want to fix the problem:
Raise minimum wage to an indexed “livable wage”. No person who works a FT job should require govt assistance in any way
Tie executive pay to an index of the lowest paid employees in the same organization (current ratio is 351-1)

 

Minimum wage jobs are meant for people who have no skills such as high school kids. They shouldn't need govt assistance. If you haven't gained some skills by the time you are out of the house, you still don't deserve to be paid more than minimum wage.

 

The R’s have no credibility in this discussion after what they spent in the previous administration when they controlled the purse strings.

Congress isnt trying to spend less, they are trying to hurt the other party from getting votes by funding or cutting funding from programs that will get them that support/votes. The R’s aren’t the fiscal conservative the claim to be when the dems are in power. They spent $6 Trillion when they had the purse strings, and they are now claiming that 1/3 of the amount THEY SPENT will now “destroy the country”.

 

Was that the MAGA Republicans? No. The GOP is dead.

 

But those people exist in our society. So we should just let them die ? I agree that minimum wages isnt supposed to buy you a new car every year, but that minimum wage should be a livable wage for the simple fact that somebody has to do those jobs. A livable, geographically indexed wage need to be enacted. Somebody need to pick up the garbage you put out to the curb

 

The Republican Party is divided between the RINO GOPERs and the MAGA conservatives.

 

You want to take away their incentive to do better? Democrats have created a welfare class by providing indefinite assistance.

 

Oh yea I'm sure you didn't support covid relief. This wasn't a trillion for pet projects pretending to be infrastructure, this was relief because states were shutting down and staying shut down. This was relief for your employer to keep paying you. If you're remotely being honest, at the time, 90% of the left and right supported it. If you didn't support it show us a post from then where you didn't support covid relief. What wasn't supported was more as covid was becoming a thing of the past. The left kills me, still using Covid as a Trump card. Bottom line Congress needs to get Biden's next budget under control, that's all this is and we'll pay our debt to China, I promise.

 

Oh please look at the stats, those making minimum wage are overwhelmingly 20-24 year olds going to school or just quit school. Let them die, could you be more of an alarmist?

 

I understood that.
Just as you understood that a veto could be overturned when you gave the veto response.

 

Biden is in a tough spot on this one. He will receive much of the blame for a default so long as the House keeps passing spending bills that would prevent the default.

That said a default will do immense damage to our entire corrupt bipartisan ruling political class.
RP pols will also be right in the splatter zone.

 

There will be no default regardless of what the congress decides. The government can pay the interest on the debt without a rise in the debt ceiling

 

So your defense of Biden trying to spend more is that R's want to trick people into thinking that the want to spend less by passing a budget that actually spends less.

 

Probably true. But sometimes when there is a will there is a way.

Our ruling idiots generally say they want to do the right thing, but still manage to do the opposite.
Who would gain from a default?