Biden declares white supremacists ‘most lethal threat’ to US

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  1. Oh Yeah

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    That is not true. I have known about the Tulsa Massacre for years. It's been on TV on the internet. I have never heard anyone say "that didn't happen". I do not know where you get the notion that Trump supporters pretend black issues don't excist or are their own fault.
     
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    You are cheating. You are including deaths by Japanese action.

    Adjust your numbers and then look up the deatuhs by Ghengis Khan and get back to me.

    Or are you afraid to?
     
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    That is SOOOO not what I'm talking about.
     
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    What are you talking about, then. When should I feel guilty?
     
  6. Pred

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    You obviously didn’t read what I wrote because I specifically said 60s and before, it existed. Have a good day. Argue fantasy by yourself.

    And you think blacks aren’t overly represented in the NFL as well? And the NHL is racist because there aren’t enough blacks people interested in Ice Hockey? Guess there’s systemic racism up in Canada too:) Want to talk Track and Field. Quite the disparity there. How does racism per recent black pellet from playing tennis? The greatest female is black. Plenty of up and comers are black. How many black professional tennis players come from EU compared to the US? Australia? Very few. Guess all those racists in EU stop them. Loads from South America. Guess racism prevents them from learning to play huh? Don’t see many white Brazilian soccer players. Must be racism keeping those evil whites guys from playing.

    And you know how many white people died to abolish slavery? Care to guess the percentage of white people who even owned slaves?

    You’re so out of your league you won’t even acknowledge the entire point of my post and instead just went off and cited more BS that has nothing to do with systemic racism preventing black people from doing anything they want to do. You’re still stuck in the past, 60 years ago. And even despite the racism blacks people STILL SUCCEEDED!!!

    You’re entire argument is hyperbolic BS. EXCUSES AND MORE EXCUSES.

    Maybe if more a black families pushed a academics instead of athletics, more black people would become doctors or engineers? But then you would need intact stable black families and sadly there’s maybe 30% of those. Far too many absentee fathers and poverty due to broken homes. But I’m sure it’s all the white people that force blacks people to have babies out of wedlock or run off? Systemic white racism in the beds of blacks people?

    Let’s make more excuses shall we, why Deondre didn’t do well in school and decide to go to medical school because all the white people prevented him. Maybe his dad could have helped him?
     
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    You are 1 trumper.
    Most whine about traitor statues being removed in slave states. Even trump does.
    Most didn't know it even happened until a trump campaign rally last year.

    Now Tulsa was an extreme case of violence, but that kind of things happened all over the USA to blacks. Including limiting borrowing ability with redlining.
     
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    LOL. WW1 was close to Kahn all by itself. Nope, not afraid. But good attempt at deflection.
    Now can you back up your claim or you gonna run and tell me to do your work for you?

    From my link.
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    The total number of military and civilian casualties in World War I was about 40 million: estimates range from around 15 to 22 million deaths[1] and about 23 million wounded military personnel, ranking it among the deadliest conflicts in human history.
     
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    Now you use NHL hockey to prove my point? And dismiss your point about over representation of blacks in sports.

    Your entire point hinged on 2 sports. NFL and NBA. It's an extremely week point you are making. And with the NHL you help my point.
    I never claimed any sports league is racist, you tried that.

    How many GOP blacks are there out of 255+ possibilities? I see you didn't bother to answer that one.
    Representation in congress is about as systemic as it gets.
     
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    You are the one who made the claim that White people are the most vicious. It is up to you to back it up. But if you want to start including other wars, consider the recurrent Chinese civil wars and the various wars of Japanese conquest prior to WWII.

    I am not running anywhere but will wait here patiently while you do your homework to back up your racist claim.
     
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    I think the main problem is that those on the right freely admit that white supremacy exists and white people have done terrible things in the past. No where even close to what it was. What the last refused to acknowledge is that other races have committed equal and even worse atrocities. There would be no slavery without black slavers selling them to white people. Slavery has existed in ALL cultures since time was time. The strong dominate the weak. That’s humanity. Always has been. Probably always will be.

    Racsim is so much worse in Asian cultures. Go ask how Japanese feel about Koreans:) In the Caribbean racsim is openly practiced. The darker your skin the worse you’re treated. ALL BLACK by the way but still racist. Australians certainly haven’t treated their indigenous very well, to this day.

    The US is not alone here. The ignorance shown by highlighting only what we did is dishonest and wrong.
     
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    I never said vicious.
    And I proved my case with WW1 and WW2.
    You tried to disprove it with Ghengis Kahn and failed.
     
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    Because other cultures did it, means it's all ok for the USA to do it also?
    We had a war that said otherwise.
    But the war didn't end black discrimination. It still exists today.
     
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    Not at all. None of it was OK. It’s about ignoring how bad the rest of the world was and were no better. And black discrimination is mostly insignificant today isolated to individual incidents. There is nothing systemic. There’s actually more white discrimination because it’s sanctioned and approved of and easily provable through written policy. Don’t confuse discrimination with illogical expectations of equity.

    If it’s discrimination because there are less than 16% Black Rocket scientists, it’s also discrimination that there are barely any white guys playing in the NBA.
     
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    Your fringe RW spin is the problem. You're trying really hard to conflate "white Americans" with "white supremacy" but sane and balanced white people know Biden is ABSOLUTELY correct.
     
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    Already showed how systemic racism exists in USA.
    You just don't like that it does.

    Is it racism there's only 1 black guy in golf?
     
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    Do you really believe all the stuff you post? I don't.
     
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    Everyone is free to compete in golf and the best players make it to the pro tour. It’s called merit and earning your PGA card. Should the PGA give out tour cards based on check boxes and ratios?
     
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    There were countless threads here, trump whined publicly about statues being removed from public area that were of civil war fighters for slavery. Yes, I do believe what I post.
    I also believe, because there are facts that show redlining targeted black neighborhoods to discriminate in the lending/borrowing process.
    I believe, just by looking at the GOP makeup of blacks that are represented in the GOP, about 4 or 5 blacks out of 255+ possibilities in congress. That shows a vast divide and systemic racism exists.

    I also know, Tulsa massacres were not widely known before a trump campaign rally had to change the date, because his original rally was on the date of the massacre, because he didn't know about it until he had to change his rally date.

    What you believe is up to you, but I do believe in the above because they are documented history.
     
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    What's your point?

    How's that different from the poster complaining about NBA and NFL?
     
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    He was contrasting your point about about whites in tennis and golf. Let me ask you, should we measure the talent and skills of people based on merit or check boxes? At least in sports where big bucks are concerned the world seems to think merit is more important. But in things like TV commercials, it seems like check boxes are. By any chance, do you play Candy Crush at all? Occasionally I do, and about 90% of the ads they show feature blacks. You can only get that high of a percentage if the people making the commercials are saying 'find me blacks.' I have Comcast and all of their own commercials heavily feature blacks, the white people in them are usually just bystanders.
     
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    No he wasn't, he started the whole thing out by stating NBA and NFL are racist by having so many blacks represented.
    I merely pointed out golf is also highly color tone to a specific color.

    So, I fail to see any point you have. Just butting in without knowing what you are talking about.
     
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    No. It’s because only 1 black guy is good enough to compete. Maybe if more black guys grew up playing golf there would be more professionals. But racism doesn’t prevent them from learning or playing.

    Tiger was pretty damn good wasn’t he? Don’t think racism stopped him from dominating when he was on his A game.

    And are you seriously THAT dense that you didn’t understand the hypocrisy regarding equity in sports and other fields of interest where different races are more represented than others? NONE OF THEM ARE RACIST!!!! Merit overrides race. You can’t play professional sports without everyone knowing your skill. You're either qualified or your not. The best players play so race is just a reflection of competence. Yet when it comes to anything except sports it’s always RACISM that prevents black people from succeeding? Why? Why is science racist but the NBA isn’t?

    Did you pass reading comprehension on the SAT, hehe?
     
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    I thought you are that dense to think NBA and NFL are racist. You are so adamant about it.

    I have never brought up sports leagues as racist. That was you trying to make some point by deflecting.

    If there is no systemic racism, why is the GOP represented by 4 or 5 blacks out of 255+ possibilities in congress?
    The systemic racism ingrained into people's minds won't elect blacks to the GOP very easily.
     
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    Whats that old saying?.......Democrats put up a bunch of racist statues, but its Republicans are screaming to keep them standing......lol

    Talk about ******** in your own bed! lol
     

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