Biden delivering fastest economic recovery in our history.

What, specifically, is Joe doing to "fight the pandemic"? What are the mechanisms behind those things?

What is "man-made climate change"? How do you know this is occurring? How does one measure something ("climate") that is subjective and unquantifiable?

 

Why would I deny it?

It's a well-known fact Obama had the slowest economic recovery since world war II.

I guess I could just be like you and pretend I didn't know anything and then ask for proof about every little thing...

 

Trump truly appreciates exploiting this dedication!

 

I blame them, well repubs didn't care since they didn't even try to impeach him.

 

So?

 

I loathe Trump.

 

Sure, keep that faith going strong!

 

I guess the rest of my post that you omitted in your response wasn't easily responded to with snide comments.

When you're prepared to debate with adults, let me know.

 

Seriously??? Surely you jest!

 

Yes.

When you guys can't actually respond back with something logical, and instead take the 12 year old route of calling names and deflecting, you get called on it.

You're another that doesn't have the capacity or desire to debate topics on their merits.

Here. Let's have a try. This should be fun.

"It is dishonest and unfair to gauge the economic success of the Trump presidency based only on the economic condition following a global pandemic rather than the economy prior to that unique situation."

What say you?

 

I say you are constructing that weak strawman made out of wet straw again. Seems like it's a necessary safe space. Carry on then .

 

Already responded a number of times. You can't count averages by omitting numbers you don't like, but you argue that is the only honest way is to do it. You say that its unfair to include the bad numbers. Did you graduate from Trump university, or where did you learn that kind of math? Omitting numbers is the opposite of honest, - its dishonest.

 

For example, Joe ordered mandatory anti-Covid vaccinations.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...sease-2019-vaccination-for-federal-employees/
Vaccination is the best way to prevent people from severe illness or death. And this has a direct positive effect on the economy.

Look at this, bro: https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/are-humans-causing-or-contributing-global-warming

 

Why not? Because states weren't allowing business to open. They weren't even allowing people to go to church.When you close businesses down you lose jobs. You lose companies. My Ex wife lost her restaurant after 24 years because people weren't going out to eat. It doesn't take a genius to see in 2020 companies were laying people off. We got the medicine for the virus in the last month of 2020 and states started allowing businesses to open in 2021.Time to look at things the way they were, not how you like them to be

 

Gorbie was a much better Soviet Leader. But even he didn't want to go down in history as the man that destroyed his country. Reagan gave the Soviets little choice. They couldn't keep hold of their WARSAW nations and try and keep up with Reagan's arms race. If you had read the article I put up, even the spokesman for the Soviet Union credits Reagan for bringing them down.

 

I do not credit Biden for any current growth and I don't blame him for any of the current bad numbers. Some policy I've had with every previous president. That said, in what quarter since he has taken office have we not have positive growth compared to the following year?

 

Answer: None.

 

What are you calling positive growth? it is not in the employment numbers.

 

Generally we are talking about GDP, but I'd be fine with looking at other metrics. Just know that I look for trend lines when it comes to those, same as I had to do in my econ classes.

And it depends what employment numbers you are looking at . . . there's more than one. Jobless claims, for example, are at the lowest in decades. A lot more people are realizing they don't need to work, particularly in 2-income households. And before you start ranting about unemployment benefits, you need to be searching for a job to get those, and that would show up under jobless claims.

 

The GDP goes up as people go back to work which they are slowly doing. The GDP is affected by inflation just like eveything else. So raw increases in dollar amounts don't mean much.

 

GDP isn't just raw increases in dollar amounts. It represents an increase of valuables in the market (including both goods and services). And inflation goes up when people go back to work, as well as when wages rise. But, again, I'm open to the discussion. Which metric would you prefer in and why? The only things I'm probably going to dismiss out of hand are stock indexes (we can still talk about those, but I also don't see them as true economic indicator, for reasons we can go into if they come up) or comparing asymmetric metrics (like comparing annual GDP numbers under one person to quarterly GDP numbers under another, instead of comparing apples to apples).

 

But other countries had already gotten their COVID outbreak under enough control to open up. Why was the US behind, why were we experiencing as many is 4,000 COVID deaths in a single day in December and January?

 

All of which are subject to inflation.

See the title of this OP. "Biden delivering fastest economic recovery in our history." I am not seeing this economic recovery. I see inflation and not much else. So what metric is used to come to this conclusion?

 

I don't know of any economist who would use inflation/deflation as the definition of a recovery. I don't quite understand how that makes sense.

 

What is the basis for the claim "Biden delivering fastest economic recovery in our history."?