Biden fires top official at Social Security Administration after he refuses to resign

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  1. GrayMan

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    They fired him because of lies by this idiot below.

    https://pascrell.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=4637#_ftnref2

    It says, "
    • Blocking access[2] to disability assistance to non-English speakers, with Commissioner Saul preposterously asserting the change would modernize the agency.[3]
    "

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5e6273e6c5b691b525f1ef3a
    "La’s case is one example of how the Social Security Administration considers English proficiency when considering disability claims by older people ― or at least how it used to.

    The Trump administration is changing the rules. Starting next month, Social Security will no longer factor lack of English when it evaluates whether someone with a severe disability is capable of working. La might have qualified anyway, due to her limited education, but others will not. "

    He stopped them from giving special benefits to immigrants that regular citizens do not have access to. They made it sound like they were being denied social security benefits because they did not speak English. That's a Lie.
     
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    His term went to 2025 why would he think his days were numbered. Social Security is an Independent Federal Agency. It's administrators are appointed to terms so they are not subject to political whims. This may play out in court, there have been two lower court rulings but those had their own other circumstances. The appointment and term of the SSA administrator has long been apolitical. Obama and Biden blew it when they could not find an administrator and it was being severed by unconfirmed unconfirmed acting heads. Of course they were trying to get around having to have a confirmation. The courts finally ruled his last acting head could no longer use the term and Trump appointed Saul to his ten year term.

    What is the cause that Biden is using to fire him? Remember when Trump fired someone and the MSM went bonkers about he had to show cause to do so when in fact that person DID serve at the pleasure of the President.
     
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    Kamala BRING IN votes? Are you kidding? She couldn't even get 2% in the polls. She was polling EIGHTH in her own state where they knew her well. She was a HORRIBLE candidate and remains a HORRIBLE politician, did you hear her latest smear and belittling of people who live in rural areas?
     
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    Boo hoo. The guy should go.
     
  5. MJ Davies

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    After you dry your tears (lol), do you have any theories on why he would refuse to resign? It seems bizarre. He had to know it was coming. Why be a Drama King about it?
     
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    How about you saying benefits will be fully indexed?
     
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    Why does Trump keep saying Ashli Babbitt was shot in the head? They're acting unhinged.
     
  8. MJ Davies

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    I don't think it's an act. Seriously, I can't believe there is not ONE person strong enough to tell him to see a mental health specialist.
     
  9. LangleyMan

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    It does.

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  10. LangleyMan

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    Who cares? You guys are going to whine to death over nothing. The guy didn't have the dignity to resign from a political position.

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    He says stuff that makes him look nutso. Why?
     
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    Probably because he is nutso.

    I wrote this in another thread...


    Remember those anti-drug commercials showing an egg frying? The voiceover would say "This is your brain on drugs. Don't do drugs."

    They'll make a replica of that and show Trump with his tail between his legs and the voiceover will say "This is what happens when your kid doesn't hear the word 'no' until he's in his 70s. Parents teach your kids they won't always get their way (preferably before they're out of diapers and definitely before they are back in them.")
     
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    Another classless Trump appointee. They have a political appointment.

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    Another phoney outrage.
     
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    Those are funny. You know what is really bothering me? I am generally a calm and patient person. I don't get worked up over too much. The only thing that will set me off is if somebody messes with my children. Then, all hell will break loose (haven't had to go there but would in a heartbeat to protect them).

    For the past few days, I am angry and absolutely so tired of his BS. I can't think of one person on this planet that I hate (way too much energy). I just stay away from people I don't like, but this POS can't even go where former presidents go (as they say out here - "Go have your a$$ a seat". LOL).

    I do not believe that all Trump supporters are idiots. It's just mathematically improbable. It is really getting to me how much hatred and division Trump has sewn with his narcissism. I "get" that they are dyed in the wool Republicans so they want to back their party's choice but they are bill lead down a road to total destruction. So many of those arrested after the Capitol riot said they did it for their President and what does he do? He leaves them in jail. Everything with him is always one-sided and it pains me that his supporters can't see or won't see or find a way to excuse or rationalize his outrageous behavior. He doesn't care about them. He's only in love with himself and who he can con next.

    Why won't he give us a chance to miss him? You can't miss somebody if they don't go away.
     
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    Their media are constructing an alternate reality. Fox News goes on about the border nonstop, day after day. Both sides ignore important issues. Wages have been stalled for four decades.

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    It's asinine that we (ALL of us "We, the people") just keep accepting/electing these sorry excuses for leaders and lapping up their campaign promises while nothing ever gets done. Either we stop electing cronies of the "in crowd" or nothing is going to change. They can justify their jobs as long as they can keep a "crisis" brewing. It's the very definition of dysfunctional.

    @Curious Always posted a very good and appropriate comment several months back. She said "We get the government we deserve.".
     
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    Actually a legal challenge, he serves in an independent government agency. What was the cause for his firing?
     
  19. Darth Gravus

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    He is still a political appointee, thus there does not need to be a reason.
     
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    Hmmm don't look to stagnant to me


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    And still an independent agency with an administrator appointed to a fixed term. What is the cause for his firing?
     
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    "Since taking office, Commissioner Saul has undermined and politicized Social Security disability benefits, terminated the agency's telework policy that was utilized by up to 25 percent of the agency's workforce, not repaired SSA's relationships with relevant Federal employee unions including in the context of COVID-19 workplace safety planning, reduced due process protections for benefits appeals hearings, and taken other actions that run contrary to the mission of the agency and the President's policy agenda"
     
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    Huh? What are you talking about? Benefits are indexed, indexed to what has been point of discussion. Should it be to wage/income inflation or CPI inflation. You could start a thread on that discussion.
     
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    By trying to institute more stringent qualifications and more proof of claims which is desperately needed?


    Yes COVID is over time for people to get back to the office and do their work just like the private sector.

    We are the owner, he is the administrator we hire, the union is the workforce. Do you understand that? He is there to represent US the TAXPAYERS not the union and the workers. If the unions don't like what he is doing then he is probably doing a good job for the taxpayer and managing our taxpayer dollars.

    Has there been some higher incidence of COVID as the SSA? Yes we need to insure those hearings properly protect the US taxpayer against fraudulent claims which is the mission of the agency.
     
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    I never said he shouldn't. Not in a single post. Just pointing out the boo-hooing belongs on the liberal left who whined for four years and happen to still be whining about Trump.
     

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