Biden is doing a good job! Do you agree or disagree?

Moriah did not mention anything about Biden's age, only his performance. I would be curious, myself, as to what missteps she would identify, on both domestic & foreign policy (because she did allude to both). I mean, we all know that our exit from Afghanistan was far less than ideal; however, this was in part due to Trump's having agreed to a timeline that was unworkable, not having held the Taliban to the conditions of that agreement, and having pulled out the vast majority of our forces, before Biden took office. Joe's only other option would have been to send back another 10,000 or more troops, and start all over again. Also, Trump's administration had purposefully not done any of the necessary vetting of our Afghan allies-- so, again, this made it impossible for Biden to do the right thing, short of sending back in, all the troops that Trump had pulled out. I was disappointed with that aspect of Pres. Biden's job performance, but this was still not as bad as some of Trump's moves, like leaving our Kurdish allies, out to dry (who then had to abandon the prisoner of war camps they were maintaining, full of ISIS fighters, to flee from the oncoming attack of the Turks, which Trump had OK'd). Taken all in all, though, Biden has been very strong on foreign policy, and nobody is going to be perfect.

I know that now, many are also unhappy about our standing behind Israel, after the Hamas attack, and I have soundly criticized the tack taken by the IDF. The reality, though, is that, first, if we had not shown support to this long time ally-- unthinkable, after the Hamas attack-- there would have been a much greater chance for this conflict to expand, thereby leading to many more tragic deaths, and greater instability in that vital region. Secondly, Biden's strategy of public support, while privately urging Netanyahu to recalibrate their tolerance of collateral deaths, has achieved at least some success. Could we have leaned harder on Israel and been successful, sooner, or would that have only alienated Bibi & the Israeli people from us? Impossible to know. Again, I think anyone finding fault, has unrealistic expectations of a President's ability to control world events, to perfection.

On the domestic front, I only know that Moriah is in favor of reparations. But I don't know what she believes a President could do, with regards to that. Will you, Moriah, flesh out the bones you have, to pick, with our current President?

 

I don't know if I'd been fully clear, in my earlier P.S.-- I'd had an initial paragraph which had mentioned you, but which got edited out, because it would have been considered "ridicule."

I'd never said that a President cannot have an effect-- it seems that you don't realize that Biden has taken steps, to increase production and bring down prices. Obviously, if you think of Climate Change as a "hoax," then anyone who gives this problem its proper consideration, will never be able to do enough to satisfy you, while being at all responsible, in trying to address the impeding crisis. Hopefully, you sit atop an oil field, so can sink a well, in your own back yard.

 

Yeah, that is not a serious reply. Amusing, though, that this has apparently become the new way for Republicans to justify their fictional world views: Trump's expression, "people are saying," has now evolved to cover more situations in which truth is too inconvenient-- by simply beginning your bullshit claim with the word "supposedly." Well, FYI, the "average Democrat" did not believe there was a 50 - 50 chance, that anyone who'd been infected with Covid, would "need go to the hospital." I don't suppose you could cite the source, behind your depiction, that this was "supposedly" true?

The truth of the matter, is that the chances of hospitalization were always depicted as low, except for those with higher risk, due to various health conditions and, especially, to older Americans. But what should be obvious to anyone, is that these populations are not separate from the rest of us. So if we let the virus run rampant, it would be deadly to more Americans. In point of fact, over a million U.S. deaths have been attributed to Covid-19, in three and a half years. For comparison, there are annually 36,000 deaths in the U.S., attributable to flu. So that makes Covid about 9 times more deadly than the flu. If it is your view that a million U.S. lives, are not worth any of your hassle, inconvenience, or expense, then I think you hold an outsider perspective. The same would hold true, regarding Climate Change. You would seem to make a very short sighted, personal assessment, of what group action is most beneficial to you, leaving the consequences of that irresponsible behavior, for all society to have to deal with, in the future.

I just want to point out, that I am reacting to your B.S., just the way you had previously voiced to be your preferred manner for conducting political conversations: with blunt honesty. You had, at that time, said that you thought this facilitates more honest discussion. I had unfortunately never gotten back to you with my answer, which would have been that I don't think that coming across as closed minded to the other's views, and potentially as condescending, regarding how foolish one sees the ideas of the person, with whom one is conversing, is usually going to do more than keep each person's perspective, isolated in their own corner. But let's test out your theory.

 

You need to ask yourself that question.
You want gas prices as they were in 2020. The year the world shutdown and went into recession.
That's a poor measuring stick.
Not related to reality. Unless you want to live in perpetual shutdowns and recessions.

USA petroleum production is now back to pre pandemic level highs.

 

You should post those numbers if you're so confident they are accurate and not RW conspiracy theory numbers.
I posted a link/story showing border apprehensions are the highest in decades.
You posted nothing.
I suppose, you really don't have any credible data to actually post?

 

And the world was still in covid lockdown and a recession.
That's quite a terrible measuring stick you're using.

I suppose if all you care about is cheap gas, you'd be willing to live in a recession again.
If that's the case, trump is your person to get into a recession.

 

My numbers may be a bit off but basically same thing: People were intentionally terrified and were made to believe the un-credible. And I lived through this: it happened.

 

So, in other words, you posted irrelevant data, and you're trying to accuse my accurate data of not being credible? I gave you data, you can search for your own stories about it.

 

I am certain all the credible evidence in the world won't make you believe how much border apprehensions have gone up.
I gave a credible source.
You gave some anonymous opinion of yours.

Since you never post a single link/story to back up your claims.
But maybe the actual CBP is credible to you?

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https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters/usbp-sw-border-apprehensions

 

Gasoline prices have been "all over the place" since Biden took over in 2021, and right now they are quite a lot lower here in Colorado. At the moment, 87-octane gasoline is about $2.70 per gallon.

Diesel fuel, however, which as we all know is used in nearly all trucks that transport everything in America, has a much higher price. At the moment, diesel is about $4.25 per gallon.

No president is exactly "responsible" for fuel prices, but when a president uses the nation's Strategic Petroleum Reserve to lower prices, his reasoning invariably invites the criticism that he did it to inhance his popularity with an inflation-ravaged population. And, inasmuch as the U. S. is now heavily involved in two (TWO) 'proxy-wars', Biden's release of huge amounts of stock from the SPR is probably not a good idea!

Link: https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mcsstus1&f=m

 

Well done, defending your saying the "average Democrat thought if you got the bug it was 50-50 you'd need to go to the hospital." I admit I was wrong, and was surprised to see that so many had believed that (though I, of course, "lived through this," as well). Even your Bill Maher video was good, and I agree with him, completely-- I, in fact, have posted the opinion that medical people are often not straight with the rest of us. That does not justify, however, your referring to Covid as a "hoax." The correct word would have been "overblown." There is a huge difference between those two ideas.

More importantly, that people were overly panicked about Covid-- which does not negate that others, on the Right, were overly disregarding of it-- does not support what had been your main point: that Climate Change is the "same thing." I will be blown away, if you can produce credible information to back up that assessment (which I believe is completely your own assumption).

 

I concede I do often call it the Covid response hoax. The bug was real. I think people knew or should have known, for instance, that people needed to get out of the home and exercise and lose weight but proscribed that we stay in our homes. I think they had agendas separate from keeping us safe and healthy.
So, how does climate crisis correspond?
1) They want us afraid, telling us things like, we have 12 years before all is lost (like telling us we suffered from a pandemic of the unvaccinated and face a winter of death).
2) They know more than us yet seem unafraid in their own lives. They will continue to be chauffeured in gas guzzlers, buy ocean front property, eat steak, get jetted around the planet and engage in pollution spewing wars. Similar to Gavin Newsom partying while telling others to mask up and isolate or Pelosi and her hair cut.
3) Their proscriptions seem to do more harm than good. Example: Mining for, building, charging/maintaining and disposing of EVs seems a lot worse than just sticking with carbon fueled vehicles and plant stuff that intake CO2 and produce O2. Instead, policy has lead to the Germans cutting down forests for firewood to stave off freezing to death. Again like telling us to lock down rather than get out and exercise and lose weight.
4) Vilify and de-fund those that do not go along with the narrative. People way better educated on the subjects than I got/get derided both on Covid, its origins and climate crisis. Our MSM reports as if everything is already agreed upon so no need to listen to those objecting to any part of the narrative.
Example How dangerous is global warming? Can we agree we're not too hot yet? To this day, more people freeze to death than die of heat exposure.
Simple search:

Why lie or at least distort? Money and power. Examples:

If there were effective treatments for Covid 19, you'd have no operation Warp Speed. Doctors were threatened with the loss of their licenses if they even tried. I have respiratory illness. I'm on steroids. I had Covid and its impact on my old fat butt were negligible. And I was still pressured to take the shot even though I had natural immunity. There was money involved with pushing the clot shot. Dunno where this went but...

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/features/105819

We got to discussing this as we have to ask, is any POTUS that takes climate crisis seriously going to do better (get us more at a lower cost) than someone that does not?

I like the idea of renewables. What we're being offered to date does not sound like good policy is being pushed.

 

yeah it's all Trump! Your going to have to live it again I'm afraid.

 

Ron Desantis didn't shut down like other states which didn't really need to shut down as they did. Biden took fear and ran with it!

 

Nope, you're going to have promote the next Big Lie of a stolen 2024 election. At least you won't have to keep supporting the curren big lie.

 

Irrelevant. DeSantis doesn't affect the country or the world.

 

I don't doubt that what you say is true about oil production in the U. S. today -- BUT -- why aren't we putting lots of it into the Strategic Petroleum Reserve? Biden authorized draining out a LOT of it to make his admn. look good before the 2022 election, and so now shouldn't he be authorizing filling it back up? It would be a very prudent thing to do now that we're already involved in two different 'proxy-wars', plus China threatening Taiwan, wouldn't it?!

 

I agree, he should build the stock back up.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WCSSTUS1&f=W

 

Huh? DeSantis very much shut down Florida. That is a fact. Biden didn't shut down anything. Its funny that both Trump and DeSantis blame each other for shutting down Florida, when the truth is that they both did, - Trump issued the shut down guidelines to all States, and DeSantis executed the shut down of Florida.

 

Yes but DeSantis reopened long before anyone else. He saw the uselessness of shutting down.

 

Biden should have followed DeSantis' lead..that is the point. He doesn't have the brains.

 

You are going to have to steal it to have a chance with Joe.

 

Why did he do something he thought was useless?

Either way, you said he did not shut down, which is fake news, because he did shut down, - HARD. Even boat ramps and golf courses had to close.

 

People going back to work after COVID is not creating jobs. Gas prices are going down because they went to historical highs. Inflation is going down from historic highs. All the other countries were/are in the same boat.

Hey, I'm British, and even I can see that there's many gullible Americans clinging on to the stupid dream that Biden is doing a great job.

Obviously AmericanProgress.org is some kind of propaganda site.

 

Great, you admit DeSantis shut down Fl.
Biden never shut down anything.
Another complaint of Biden that is false. 3 of them in this thread.