Biden is doing a good job! Do you agree or disagree?

You must not have read the link?
We've exceeded the job losses from covid.

Gullible Americans are still making trump the leading R candidate. 2X impeached. Voted out as an incumbent. 91 indictments in 4 different locations. And some of his lawyers have plead guilty in relation to some similar indictments.

 

Lead on what?
DeSantis shut down florida.

 

You have Trump there because look at the opposition.

 

The basement dweller senile demented person won the last time.

And he's done a decent job.
In terms of job gains and inflation fighting. USA inflation is running lower than most of the world.

 

Biden is an embarrassment, just admit it.

 

But still the best option available at the moment and in 2020.
That's why he won.

 

We'll disagree on that point. When you only have 14% of the American public think they are better off under Biden, only 14% of Americans are staunch Biden supporters.

 

I don't really blame or credit presidents for the economy, but overall, yes, I think he's doing a good job. Much better than I'd expect from the alternative. The last thing I want for the next election is another Biden v Trump matchup, but I will vote for Biden this time if it comes to that.

 

Not everyone is complaining, or looking things only from partisan POV. Once you put on the partisan goggles, then you'll claim to agree or disagree based on which party looks good or bad

The majority of Americans think they’re better off financially than their parents were—especially Gen Z
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/17/mos...etter-off-financially-than-their-parents.html
a slight majority of adults say they’re doing better financially than their parents were at their age, according to a recent LendingTree study. Just over half — 51% — of adults say they’re in a better financial position than their parents were at their age.

That’s a good thing; parents want their children to be successful. Nearly 90% of parents said it’s very or extremely important that their kids become financially independent, according to Pew Research.

Among households earning $100,000 a year or more, 79% say they’re doing better than their parents. Just 55% of those earning $50,000 to $74,999 a year and only 34% of those who earn $35,000 a year or less feel the same way.

But while confidence that you’re doing better than your parents may grow with income, it doesn’t necessarily grow with age.

In fact, Gen Zers are most likely to say they’re doing better financially than their parents, with 57% of those ages 18 to 26 saying they’re in a better position than their parents were at the same age. Here’s the percentage of each generation that believes they’re doing better than their parents:

• Gen Z: 57%
• Millennials: 52%
• Gen X: 43%
• Baby boomers: 54%

 

Maybe people just have short memories, because things were a heck of a lot worse when he took office. Unemployment, for example was around 7% and GDP growth was in negative territory.

 

They will always make it about feelings, not facts.

 

Border security is my # 1 issue. I voted for Trump so he would build a wall. He built a good portion of the wall and illegal migration dropped precipitously. Why am I against illegal immigration? We have laws on the books that allow those wishing to come here fill out an application. That gives our immigration service the opportunity to investigate the application, control the flow of different groups based on nationality, income, education and ability to support themselves and family. The majority need a sponsor to be granted a visa. Those who come here on work, recreational, or school and special visas are expected to obey the terms of those visas. Anyone who deliberately decides to disobey them terms has no respect for our "rule of laws" and should be tracked down and sent back to their country of origin and denied any chance of admission to our country. When it comes to taking in persons for humanitarian reasons, I believe we need to set the bar very, very high until this country learns how to take care of its own citizens and has the capability to fund the care of new refugees.

When Biden was elected, I went to the grocery store and bought two years of canned goods and dry goods. I bought a freezer and packed it with meat. Even doing that I have had to pay a lot more for eggs, bread, milk, fresh vegetables and items with short shelf life.

Gas was about $2.29 a gallon when Biden came in. It has fluctuated between $ 3.25 and $4.50 and only recently dropped to $2.99. Today it's at $3.15.

Inflation on a yearly basis has worn down any savings value and income value every year he has been in office. It has not kept up with COLA.

Gas prices and inflation are only down from high levels. Let us see how long it lasts. Biden drained the oil reserves of very cheap oil, putting our defense in a vulnerable position if we had to go to war. He has started to refill them but at a higher cost than the withdrawal.

I really haven't seen our country so divided since the middle '60's and the civil rights movement.

It seems a great portion of our young people have no respect for the rights of others. (this could be a topic all onto itself)

 

By your argument, the government's telling you to immediately evacuate from coastal areas, because of an approaching tsunami, would "correspond," with alarmism, over Covid. That some reactions come across as alarmist, does not prove that there is never any need for alarm. With Covid, medical science was dealing with a less the fully understood pathogen; so, obviously, there was guesswork involved, and a need to update recommendations, with new data. And it is not just the virus, itself, which offered unknowns, but the way which people would respond, or fail to do so. As Maher had noted, media hype played a big part in people's misapprehensions, of their personal risk. This, unfortunately, applies to nearly everything. The medical community was not telling people they had a 40% chance of hospitalization.

But your impression of what occurred, still seems counter-factual. The idea that we all could have gone outside, and immediately have gotten physically fit, and that would have addressed the pandemic, is ridiculous. Hospitals were overflowing with patients. Over a million people in the U.S. did die. Vaccines did reduce the number of serious infections. It was stupid to be in an enclosed place, with a large number of others.

Your understanding of Climate Change, seems even more flawed, based on your producing of a snip about more people freezing to death, than dying of heat exposure. We are not worried about baking to death (in fact, the greenhouse effect will ultimately lead to a blocking out of sunlight, and so lead to a return of ice age conditions). The most noticable effects on people, we have already been seeing: super-powered ocean storms (hurricanes & cyclones), and increased wild fires. While this is less obvious, we are seeing changing whether patterns, which are leading to more droughts. This will lead to decreased food production, and famines.

We will also be seeing greater flooding of coastal regions. But the effect that actually most concerns me, which I'm sure is completely off your radar, is the not only warming, but acidifying of the oceans. This is already having a devastating effect on coral reefs, which has far reaching effects on the ocean food chain. If you are only interested in the direct impact on us, we are already seeing many types of marine life, which we use as a food source, shrinking in their plentitude. And this is just the start.

So I will say that the comparison, if we are to make one, between Climate Change & Covid, is that neither is fully understood, so the concepts we are currently pursuing, may well all not be the best, most effective ones. But we do know, for sure, that use of fossil fuels are a major contributor to the problem-- think, standing in a closed space, with inadequate ventilation, in a large crowd of unmasked people, during the initial phase if Covid (or even now)-- so the argument that the media is over-hyping the problem, therefore there is no reason to not just continue on as we have been, is a patently illogical one.

I have two rebutting points, for you to consider. First, not every issue, gets overblown by the media: it is dependent upon viewer interest. Hence compare the coverage of the Hamas-Israel war, to coverage of the Rohingya genocide in Myanmar, in 2016 & 2017. Global warming may be more like that; IOW, it may not be getting nearly the attention that it warrants. Despite what may be your impression, we are not constantly hearing about Global Warming, and its effects (evidenced by your thinking that the threat had to do with people dying from heat exposure). Look instead, at some other large issue, with no simple solutions, so which people have a limited interest in hearing about, like ocean pollution. You have probably heard about the large area in the Pacific, covered with floating garbage? More importantly, have you heard about plastic breaking down into little pieces, to become part of the marine food chain? This is not new. But how much has been done to counter the situation? That seems more the case, with Climate Change: there has been more talk than concrete action, thus far, and what steps have been taken, are woefully inadequate, rather than being too much.

Finally, look at your own evidence, presented about mistakes made during the Covid pandemic. They are already being recognized-- just a few years after the fact, we have a better understanding. Well, Climate Science has been evolving for a good many years, now. Alarms were not a sudden phenomenon; it is only the world's finally beginning to pay them some heed, which is the new development. The data that has been collected, since the 1800s, has not discovered flaws in the theory, unlike what has occurred with Covid. Instead, the evidence has only been more affirmed, with time. Therefore, it is not reasonable, to assume that Climate Change, is just like it was, with Covid (which, again, was still real, itself, and a valid cause for world concern; not something that required no real attention).


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What is the history behind climate change?

In the 1800s, experiments suggesting that human-produced carbon dioxide (CO2) and other gases could collect in the atmosphere and insulate Earth were met with more curiosity than concern. By the late 1950s, CO2 readings would offer some of the first data to corroborate the global warming theory.Oct 6, 2017
https://www.history.com › topics
Climate Change History - Greenhouse Effect, Treaties
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If you have alternate theories, on how to address the problem-- as I do-- that is one thing. But not addressing it, or doing so in a manner similar to the way we are "cleaning up the oceans," that is, slowly and ineffectively, is not a responsible attitude.

 

What's the point of having a wall which 'works' only when Trump is in office?

He added 80 miles of new wall, so no, it would not have made any difference.

 

COVID for f's sake.

 

You didn't get the point. Things were not better that time no matter what the reason or excuse. That's why I said people have short memories.

 

Come up with many charts, there's one that encompasses all, the Consumer Confidence chart. That's plummeted under Biden, it's probably the only chart to compare presidents. There's always a recession etc.. from one president to another that makes comparison tricky to impossible. Even the effects of the first two years can be up to the last president.

The consumer will tell you their confidence in the economy, the polls will tell you the confidence in your presidents. Currently with your current president, America is on a double low.

If jobs are down due to a recession or pandemic, employment will eventually increase, even if there was no president. As for inflation........

 

I get a vote.
You don't.
I bet our jobs situation is better than you're country, as well as inflation rate.

 

I agree, I don't think a president can even influence 10% of an economy.

But for some reason, political junkies think the whole world changes under each president.
Outside some EOs and influence, all they do is sign what congress passes or vetos what congress passes.

 

Walls are mostly useless.
Under Bush & Obama...

But Joe Biden has been in the White House before, as Vice President during the Obama administration. Instead of halting construction and removing walls, they built more than 100 miles of new wall along the southwest border.
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By the end of President Bush’s time in office the U.S.-Mexico border was lined with 278 miles of 15-to-18-foot-tall pedestrian fence and 248 miles of vehicle barrier, for a total of 526 miles. Of those, 135 miles had been built prior to the passage of the Secure Fence Act.
https://www.southernborder.org/the_..._harris_administration_should_tear_walls_down

Under trump... Who said MEXICO will pay for his wall, diverted military funds

The vast majority of the 458 miles were constructed in places where some kind of barrier already existed, but most of the preexisting structures were far less imposing than the new wall and included fencing and rudimentary technical barriers. The total figure also includes what the agency calls “secondary border wall” or sections of wall built behind preexisting barriers that ultimately remained in place.
https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...president-donald-trumps-border-wall-was-built

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All those miles and miles of walls and costs, haven't slowed down immigration.
Walls can be gone over, under, around, and smuggled through.
They are at best, a band aid that doesn't solve the solution.

We were in or just recovering from a recession due to covid at Biden inauguration.
Free money was everwhere, from trump and Biden with all the covid funds given to families.
Inflation was a natural result of all that money. Lots of demand and very little goods and services due to shutdowns.

IMO, due to the higher interest rates, inflation will remain in check.

 

You mean this? I see a massive collapse in 2020, and then a sharp recovery once Trump left the office. It also shows steady increase under Obama, and flat under Trump (until the collapse in 2020). The other collapse under Bush is also noteworthy.

Things were NOT good in Jan 2021, which is why I say people have short memories. Before Covid things were average at best.

Short memories......but no, I'm not a big Biden fan, and I hope Biden drops out and lets someone else run in his place.

Its actually higher now than it was under Reagan.....

 

All I know is that Biden is better than Trump.

 

DeSantis was back in business long before Biden was.

 

No. Trump even sent a hospital ship to help NYC to deal with the over flow of patients to hospital beds expected. It was sent back with excuses but the reality? They were never, ever, needed.


Carbon increased radically from the 19th to 20th century but we got so cold that Newsweek and Time reported the coming ice age was undeniable. My point is, there is a ton of room for review. As long as people are more likely to die of cold than heat tells us, we have plenty of time to review.


I will, for the sake of argument, state too much CO2 is a problem. Rather than live with a metaphorical cork up our butts, we should plant stuff. Boom. Done.


I will write, your alarmism about current weather? My understanding is it is alarmism. It went from Leanord Nimoy telling us “we have never seen weather like this before” fearing the next ice age, to Sigorney Weaver saying the same thing over global warming. It is just fear mongering. Please ignore it.


But addressing climate change? My idea? Plant stuff. Start reclaiming deserts. Even if climate change is a hoax, and I think it is, this (planting stuff) can’t be a bad thing. It will make us better off and wealthier.

 

Before Biden even took office. Or even before he was elected.