Biden is Trying to End the Pandemic because he's screwed.

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  1. Wulfschilde

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    Biden's success is tied to the success of his economic policies and this goes beyond just the usual "a bad economy leads to lost elections" phenomenon, as I will explain.

    Biden's economic policy is basically the "build back better / great reset" theory in action. Printing lots of money (similar to how China does it) is supposed to culminate in a basic income system, where everything is a subscription service delivered to you, you own almost nothing, which would allow for immense levels of social control through a government-corporate (don't call it fascist, that's for right-wing people) alliance that manages your UBI and the subscriptions you need to live. Throw in some vaccine passports and self-driving Uber cars and you wouldn't even be able to travel very far without the consent of the powers that be. This would also of course be good for the environment because less people would be driving, more people would be working from home, fewer people working in general etc.

    In order for this to all pan out, lots of money has to be printed. We also can't just start it all at once, it has to be reached somewhat gradually. Some of the things this theoretical system needs don't even exist on a large scale yet. This is why Biden got trillions of stimulus passed and then he also wants trillions more with his "infrastructure bill", it's presumably to be the start of this new system. But the passage of the second bill was predicated upon the first bill being a success, which in the short term means that inflation stays controlled and that people go back to work for now.

    What actually happened is that inflation last month was 3x the estimate and the job growth target was off by 75%. These are huge numbers, even if you don't consider that Biden's people are in charge of the data; Obama used to release rosy numbers all the time, then edit them later, but only by like 0.2% at a time or something. If Biden's people are admitting they missed their goal by 75%, it's because the outcome is too large for them to hide. It's not the kind of miss that can scraped away month by month or quarter by quarter. The numbers could well be worse than what we have been told.

    As such, Biden's economic policies have failed on both fronts: inflation is not under control (highest it's been since 1982 or something) and people aren't going back to work. This threatens the passage of the infrastructure bill because moderate Democrats might balk and not support it. Why would they, how could they, what will they say to their constituents when the policy has failed historically badly?

    But wait, you might think that this doesn't matter because Biden stole the election. But it does matter because in reality, if Biden did steal it, he only barely got away with it. There are still major audits going on in Arizona and some are possibly getting underway in other places. It doesn't seem like they have complete control of the situation, if they did, why are we hearing things like the Maricopa county voter records were illegally deleted etc.

    So, let's say (for the sake of argument) that Biden did steal the election and therefore he doesn't need support from Democrats in moderate areas. If he doesn't need their support, that means he has to steal the election again, only this time it would be from other Democrats. So they'd need to steal Democrat primaries, then steal another general, while keeping a lid on the whole thing, even though they don't seem to have a lid on the first time they allegedly did it.

    Another alternative is that Senators like Joe Manchin decide to flip flop and support Biden's infrastructure bill even though it clearly hasn't worked. If the elections aren't rigged, he would be out next time he's up for re-election, in which case the above scenario I described would need to play out in order for consecutive "infrastructure" bills to continue getting passed.

    This is all super unfeasible for the Democrats to play out, so their only hope is to make the policies that have so far not worked start working better. And the only way to do that is to make this pandemic thing go away, like yesterday. Unfortunately for Joe, another hilarious development has occurred: far leftists have been enjoying these lockdowns so much that they are rejecting the CDC's advice, saying that they will continue wearing masks, continue requiring others to wear masks, continue social distancing. Therefore, even though Joe appears to be trying to end the pandemic, it's starting to look like the leftist mob he has been pandering to won't allow that to happen.

    If this all really is as big of a conspiracy as some of us think it is, next the WHO is going to revise coronavirus testing measures again and the pandemic will disappear worldwide.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow, that’s deep
     
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    Can you please expand on this notion? Who are the far leftists that are enjoying the lockdowns and don't want the pandemic to end? And why do they feel that way?
     
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    a deep pile of horse ****.

    This thread needs moved to the CT section
     
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    The teachers unions is who comes to mind when I hear that
     
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    You are giving Biden far more credit than I or any who voted for him would give him??? I wish he did have the ability to end the pandemic.
     
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    Well, to be fair, the article talks about people are extremely paranoid and concerned about catching the virus. And, in some cases, they go overboard with precaution. Even the section about going in the opposite direction of Trump, that was because they believed he was wrong minded in how to best keep people safe.

    My reading of the OP was that there were people on the left who were gleeful about the prospect of keeping things shuttered - almost going so far as to say that they wanted the country to tank because of the pandemic. There is no evidence of that in the article you offered.
     
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    So the teachers unions are gleeful about keeping everything locked down? To what end?
     
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    I think is more than one-dimensional. I have a friend who teaches HS math. His wife works at the same school in the lunch department. She reported to work every morning at 6A because many of the children come from households that are food poor. Providing them with breakfast and lunch helps in that regard. The wife got the vaccine as soon as she could. He still hasn't done it and is refusing to go back into the schools (I'm not sure if he's doing that as a collective part of the union or not). On the surface, it appears that he is just being obstinate.

    If you look a bit deeper, you will find all kinds of reports about waves of COVID flowing through schools that have reopened. There were scores of teachers all over the country calling off because they were sick so some of those schools went back to remote learning. So the big question is how do we get our kids back in school AND keep them safe so they aren't carrying the virus back to their parents and/or grandparents? The vaccine, while helpful, doesn't eliminate contracting the virus completely and it's that gray area that has many within the educational system concerned and hesitant to go back to full-time teaching in the classroom.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=sch...ome..69i57.6421j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    https://www.google.com/search?q=tea...hUKEwiZt_-o9czwAhUXH80KHWN4A6wQ4dUDCA4&uact=5
     
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    Deeper than anything we see coming from your side of the aisle.
     
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    If I was a teacher getting paid not to teach, I'd probably call in sick too. It would save me a trip to the school.

    https://www.chalkbeat.org/2020/3/17...stricts-shut-down-substitutes-not-necessarily
     
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    All presidents success is tied to the economy.
    People vote with their wallets.

    And Biden can't end the Pandemic.
     
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    Trump was so scared of the virus he took not one, but a cocktail of experimental drugs when he caught covid

    then after that he also got the vaccine in secret so no one would know
     
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    And far less productive as well. A typical teacher's union objective, teach less, get paid more.
     
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    That's an admission you posted BS.
    Teacher's not teaching was your claim.


    It is less productive, and why it's harder to teach remotely.
     
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    If he did it in secret, how would you know about it? You need to provide some evidence of that.
     
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    cause the new admin released it, he had the shot in january

    the evidence is that he released nothing about it in January when he got it, feel free to try and prove me wrong
     
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    Teaching less and getting paid full wages for doing so was my claim. So as usual, it's your claim that's BS.
     
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    So I'm just supposed to take your word for it? Assuming you're right, is there some problem with him not releasing his own personal out-of-office medical procedures? Of what concern is it to you?
     
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    Utter untruth.
    You said teachers are getting paid to NOT teach. You can read your post. I reposted it for you.
     
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    Do you believe in Nibiru, too?
     
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    I think we are going to be able to unmask in a few weeks if we have had our shots. I have but I will keep wearing masks just to troll democrats by making them think I am refusing to have my magnetic, sterility inducing CIA- chip vaccine.
     

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