Biden nibbles on frightened young girl during trip to Finland, weirding out Twitter users

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  1. Yulee

    Yulee Well-Known Member

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    Dumb. They have a legit shot to win reelection.
     
  2. Just A Man

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    Biden meant no harm. He sees all little children as his grandchildren -- except the real number 7.
     
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    I DIDN'T say a word about it...
    Unlike some people who lack historical.knowledge, I am well aware of the historical precedent of incumbents not debating in Primaries...
    And, I dare anyone to find a post from 2020 where I advocated for Trump debating in the primaries...
    My advice:
    Quit making up Bullshit about things that I NEVER said...
    It is a Horrible look and an insult to collective intelligence...:bored:
    Really?
    I DON'T recall that...
    So, Find the Posts and show the receipts to back up that Claim...
    I (personally) never advocated for that...Period!
    You passed Political History 101? Bravo...
    WRONG! Again..:bored:
    I DON'T "have a problem with it"...
    That said, thanks for the laughs, and congrats on knowing the history of Primary Debates...:salute:
     
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  4. Destroyer of illusions

    Destroyer of illusions Well-Known Member

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    And Americans are not alone in this.

    But in this case, it goes over the top. The American citizens have elected an outright idiot. An idiot in the medical sense. And it's amazing.
     
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    Biden just doing the grand fatherly act there. It was common with the older generation.
     
  6. Destroyer of illusions

    Destroyer of illusions Well-Known Member

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    People think differently.
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  7. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    What's your opinion of Donald Trump?
     
  8. FreshAir

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    good, so we can agree both Trump and Biden are creepy elderly old men
     
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  9. Hey Now

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    A corrupt POS with the track record and I am a NEVER Trumper, NEVER. :)
     
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    so you want the government to take over what you pay for
     
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    Yes nothing better than authoritarians rationing your health care based on your political beliefs or your race. News flash, if you aren't of the preferred race, you will go right to the back of the line for health care. It was an eye opener for me when two of my brothers in TWO DIFFERENT STATES were both explicitly denied access to monoclonal antibodies because of they were middle class white men. Rich white men like Joe Rogan and Aaron Rodgers of course were given the treatment. Nothing turned me off faster from universal healthcare than what happened with Covid. By the way, not even your status as gay would have allowed you to get the best treatment. They would have told you to go home and ride it out just like they did to my brothers. You will come to appreciate that as you get older. Unless you are rich, you are going to get dogshit care. The exception of course could depend on where you live. My mother lived in an upscale exurb in Wisconsin where the care was mediocre. She moved to a small town in Nebraska and started seeing a country doctor. The level of care skyrocketed. The country doctor is aggressively treating her osteoporosis with shockingly good results. The upscale exurb doctors were comfortable with doing nothing to help her other than identify that she had it.

    On a side note, it is rather clear that the medical industry is prosecuting a war on gay youth. Tavistock proved that more 90% of "transgender" youth are really just gay or confused kids..... 90% rejected the transgender identity if they were denied puberty blockers until adulthood and were only exposed to psychotherapy. The moment you give the kids puberty blockers, they are locked into transgenderism 100% with no exit. Now that the hideously expensive transgender "care" (butchery) can be paid by insurance companies to the tune of tens of billions of dollar, there is full court press to butcher gay/confused children. Gay ain't good enough, no profit in that, it has got to be transgender so massive corporations can monetize the hell out of that crap.
     
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  12. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Yep, let desperate partisans feed their need.
     
  13. Hey Now

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    That only applies to troll/flamebait threads, think about it ;).
     
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    So the current system is broken so….we can’t change it?
     
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    Enough said.

    It looks to me like a grandpa teasing a grandchild. A mountain from a mole hill.

    As for that bit, the two names are nearly the same, just with different spellings. How many of you know the difference? Did any of you know the difference before Russia invaded Ukraine?
     
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  16. Kal'Stang

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    No, you didn't advocate for Trump debating in the primaries (that's just you trying to make a strawman out of what I said). But, like I said in my post, Trump haters most certainly had a hissy fit that he wouldn't. You for instance said he wouldn't debate in the primaries because he was a "pansy". And you didn't mention "historical precedent" when you said it either.

    And don't worry, I fully expect you to try and spin what you said here also.
     
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    I don't know of anyone, much less a grandpa, that would nibble, or even act like they were going to nibble, on a strangers child. How many do you know?
     
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    It's not his concern about a kid having a bad time, that responsibility belongs to the mother. And unlike you, it's not his kid which makes his actions totally inappropriate.
     
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    Numerous studies have shown that our healthcare expenditures (both public and private) are anywhere from 5 times to 10 times more expensive than it is in other nations, that would be fine if we received 5 to 10 times the results but we do not. We drop each year in life expectancy ratings, childhood mortality, accessibility and overall satisfaction.

    Having a minimum level of care for all Americans could be achieved cheaper than what we currently have and if we add private insurance on top of that we can enjoy the best of both worlds.

    Saying I want the government to “take it over” is a tad more simplistic than what I actually believe would be best for this nation.
     
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    So what do you believe are the reasons for that and how can government fix it?
     
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    So you are against universal healthcare because of something you witnessed under capitalistic healthcare? I am not even going to try and piece that puzzle together…

    So again, more examples of capitalistic healthcare… It’s honestly impressive how you’ve managed to stay so confident in your views while expressing a distain for our current system.

    Btw, my healthcare is excellent, but I utilize private services at significant expense.

    I have no idea what this has to do with the subject, nor do I care. Again, it’s laughably hilarious that you post more examples of why you hate our current healthcare system while those evil socialist nations are prioritizing care based on end results.

    Fascinating stuff
     
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    True but not amazing. American voters vote for fame, pretty faces and/or pretty words. They have no clue about competence because they don't follow it. Only a small minority of informed Americans are competent to elect candidates. If you leave leadership decisions to the public, the public will serve its own personal interest rather than the interest of the nation. It happens almost every election. Few people understand that the interest of their nation is in their own interest as well.

    Other democracies leave the personnel decisions to the political parties. Other democracies have improved on what we started. Nevertheless our system has survived two and a half hundred years and been amazingly successful. It is a credit to the American people and its thriving private sector. Despite suffering a corrupt and incompetent national government I still believe the U.S. is the best country on the planet. But I have lived under authoritarian rule and would never want to go back to it.
     
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    First we are dealing with multiple entities that derive a great deal of profit from the current system.

    Health insurance companies take in close to $1.3 trillion per year and this is only growing. That is only the premium payments side of our insurance system. This doesn’t include copays or out of pocket costs to the actual doctors doing the work.

    It is estimated that another 15-30% of the total cost of healthcare paid to the provider is eaten up by medical administration costs, the primary item here is medical coding and processing for insurance companies.

    That is before we even get into the profit margins on pharmaceuticals, medical equipment, testing…

    A public option would allow for negotiations on final pricing which would immediately lower the overall cost. In addition we would end medical bankruptcy and stop people from avoiding preventative care until it becomes a major medical issue.

    We also need to remove unhealthy foods from our welfare system — no one should be able to use government funds to buy goods that are also inflating their medical costs.
     
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    So what's the solution? We try to Obamacare and Bill Clinton himself said it was the craziest thing he'd ever seen and I don't know if it was him or someone else that said it was designed to fail.

    I agree with you on the unhealthy foods on welfare. for that matter I don't disagree with you on anything you said.
     
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    Obamacare was a Republican program, it was designed to garner votes from both Republicans and Democrats — while it was successful in getting more Americans insured it didn’t address many of the reasons that cause our costs to be so high.

    As to what can be done — we need to look at what is working in nations like Norway, the Netherlands, and Denmark, Sweden, Canada and Australia are doing as they are rated the highest. Almost all of them have a basic level of healthcare and then supplement that with private insurance.

    There isn’t a system that works for all nations so we would need to implement the foundation (something akin to a public option would probably be the easiest implemented but wouldn’t save as much as national health ran by the government or state entities).
     

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