Biden: There Is 'No Federal Solution' to COVID-19 Response

More like I thought out your position and why it’s a bad one. You cite Perry’s attempts to ban a vaccine mandate. Did vaccination rates increase or decrease after what happened? My guess is they stayed the same or decreased. Because “freedom”. Now think about the innocent lives that could have been saved by one simple mandate. To say nothing of the wider social impact that death has. When I say your death advocates for death, That’s kind. Rather the position advocated for is apathy. And apathy is worse than death. Because it means we could have done better and chose not to.

 

You missed the part about George Soros. It’s called a dog whistle. When a person brings up Soros, they’re trying to say something anti Semitic using coded language. It doesn’t matter that George Soros funds one agency which funds another I cite. What matters is that Soros ;the stand in for Jews) does.

 

Instead of asking that question why don't you ask the question did Biden actually say this and what the context is and decide for yourself instead of just relying on an ad hom of the source

 

Oh my. You are helpless. Gov. Rick Perry tried to enforce the mandate of the vaccine. Your guess is not a guess as you covered both outcomes. How very bold of you.

You cannot think of the innocent lives that have been negatively affected by the fear mongering and the continued lockdowns. It’s all about authority for you.

Just continue to dodge and evade in here.

 

Okay so what you're actually saying here is that if you dare to criticize George Soros you're obviously indulging an anti-Semitism and by extension you must be some sort of white supremacist Nazi..hmmm.... Did I get that right did I spell it out correctly?

 

Says you.
You have lost all credibility if you think typing the name George Soros equals anti-semitism; not to mention delusional thought process.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/22931

 

Well, one issue that's been pointed out is that these countries either have different reporting measures, or in some cases(China for example being the biggest offender by far) are outright fabricating statistics. indeed, when one for example points to the Florida department of health, even if that's by the score of a couple hundred or a couple of thousand, that pales in comparison to China's 160 million tests to....100,000 infected. LMFAO.

So yes, death rates do vary by country, seniority, age and apparently obesity as well plays a factor. But as far as we know, even the liberal's most hated adversary: DJT is alive and well, so this virus is truly a case by case scenario on what it does even to an obese person.

As far as what parts of a Liberal response to the virus I can agree too: I do think it's time for us to concur with Europe's mandatory paid leave/sick days. Also, I think working from home will be a more long-term thing as the economy adjusts. If we can limit contact when we're sick/unwell, and only participate in society when we're well that would help mitigate the virus to some determinable effect. But right now, we've had a false choice of economy vs health.

 

Read my signature:
“The procedural “trivia” is science!”. In other words, if you have bad sources your argument can be immediately dismissed on those grounds. When anyone appeal to sources they are staking their credibility on those sources. If the sources are bad, the argument by default is bad.

My mistake. How many people have been vaccinated?

and in the wise words of my professor, “democracy and authoritarian regimes are not black and white. There’s a sliding scale”. I thought to myself why does freedom matter. Nothing more and nothing less. To have a belief is being willing to betray it.

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2. I asked myself two questions. Why was Soros mentioned? And is it reasonable to have mentioned Soros?
3. The answer to those questions are as follows:
1.Soros was mentioned to suggest a bias. As if he himself as a donor had direct influence over the methodological process for MFB. Which is silly because 2. It’s not reasonable to have mentioned him because lots of people donate money to many different causes. Why didn’t jeff mention those people as well? Or more importantly why frame it as if Soros had direct influence over the issue at hand. Which now leads us back to question one. Why was it mentioned?

No, the only reasonable conclusion is whether meant or not, it was an antisemetic dog whistle.

See above.

So basic problems we can account for in models? Like for example using the number of people who sought out medical services, or were hospitalized with certain symptoms? Once again the country shouldn’t have mattered. And yet the countries response did matter.

 

That is false information. You claimed the quote was taken out of context, and I simply asked you the context. I didn't put any words in your mouth, you provided them.

Also I never said that Biden is abandoning the states. I'm not sure where you pulled that from.

If you chose to put me on ignore, that's up to you of course, but I'll remember it's because you made a statement that you couldn't back up.

 

Yeah.... it's a lying pile of crap... click at your own risk.

Even the little snip provided by the OP is a direct lie...

Anybody with at least 2 functioning brain synapses knows what Joe mean with his response to Hutchinson, clumsy though it was...

It's a joint effort... the federal response will be effective if ALL individual governors get on board and stop pandering...

 

Man that’s done an incredible job of stopping covid like he promised he could do and trump couldn’t.

 

Media bias fact check was literally used by DerideoT in a discussion with me once where he used a source which argued that a psychic talked to Betsy Ross and Betsy told the psychic she was homosexual. Then when I called him out for that bullshit he pulled up his mediafactcheck site... the EXACT same one you just did which said that the source was “neutral and truthful”.

Please excuse us when nobody gives a **** about what that liberal piece of crap mediafactcheck says.

 

Meaning what?

 

The numbers are overwhelmingly in favor of those who do get vaccinated. Just because you have not observed it doesnt make your experience an axiom. Lack of evidence is not proof.

It is one thing not to get vaccinated, but when you post statements that counter the medical profession while insinuating your observations are the reason, you are spreading false info.

 

Bro. Please tell me you’re not actually a teacher. And please for the love of God PLEASE tell me you don’t teach social studies.

You do understand that what you just described is the very antithesis of what this country was founded upon right?

See your argument is how dictators take form. This is not hyperbole nor is it spot case scenario. This is true in literally every single example of dictatorships taking hold in the history of mankind. Without exception.

Dictators, even benevolent dictators, take power and hold it through the argument that they must take power because if they don’t there is some threat that they must protect us from and that this threat is so paramount that we must be willing to sacrifice our freedom in exchange for said protection.

What you just described is how freedom dies... under the guise of security. That’s why our founders set the government up in the way they did. They were highly educated on the actions of dictators and knew that dictators subsume power by promising you security at the loss of your freedoms.

Security is easy. We can provide security for you at all times under all circumstances. We can protect you from getting aids, we can protect you from covid, the flu, we can protect you from automobile accidents and plane crashes and falling down and hurting yourself and heart disease and diabetes and any other problem. That’s easy. We simply take away all of your freedoms and you live in a padded room where all of your needs are taken care of. You have no freedom but you have unlimited security. Security is easy.

But freedom, even under the threat of death, sickness, dismemberment, torture, the death and torture of family and friends... is a much more precious gift. Freedom gives man the ability to forge his own destiny, overcome his own mistakes, battle through and beat his own obstacles and either succeed or fail no matter the consequences by his own hand.

Security has been given to people by autocrats, dictators and communists innumerable times throughout history. Freedom is precious and is a rare occurrence in the history of mankind provided only to us because men were willing to sacrifice EVERYTHING to get it.

You keep your security. I want my freedom.

 

Exactly. MBFC is nothing more than a content control and censorship tool for the weak minded and intellectually lazy in order to limit exposure to thoughts and ideas that their intolerance and bigoted minds can’t handle having a debate with. The bigotry of MBFC against conservatives and evangelical Christians knows no bounds and that is why it’s proponents use it.

 

Interesting. Is it not true that people who get the flu vaccine have better rates than people who don’t? Should everyone be forced to take the flu vaccine?

Is it not true that people who take Prep (the aids drug) have better statistics than those who don’t? Should every sexually active adult be forced to take prep?

How far are you willing to take your argument?

 

They're still dying(and getting infected) even in countries that are doing better than the US. So how much did it really matter? In the grand scheme of things? Nil, none, nothing at all.

 

Indeed. With so many antivax idiots and political posturers running around spreading lies and bullshit, he can't do any more in a free society.
During the 1918 pandemic, people worked together and the pandemic ended after about two years. People wore masks, and were eager to get a vaccine. The way things are going now, it will take a lot longer and more people will have to die needlessly because of the antivaxers and those who think that vaccines are a commie plot.
You just can't fix stupid, and now they're trying to take us down with them. They even turned on their great orange hope when he told them to wise up.

 

Where did i say force ?

 

the fear mongering by the media helped to mobilize the dead and illegal voters and get full Democrat control


mission accomplished

Did anyone think that Democrats could cure an engineered virus that has become endemic?

It was always about power to the Democrats

 

full Democrat control in DC..........oh wait.

never mind

 

LOL clean up on isle 7. You guys are funny. Biden flat out said there was not a federal solution, the opposite of what he said a year ago. I understand why though.
His plan never even got off the ground, it was all talk. You can't get at home testing, more have died under his watch than Trump, and they have no planning nor answer for Omi variant. This Administration has failed on every level you know it, I know it and the world knows it. There's a reason why even Obama didn't want him running....

 

So, when does he put up or, shut up?

 

you are kidding right?

Do you see the daily death count on any of the DNC controlled media outlets?

Do you see sad stories about how Auntie or Grammy died of Covid and people had to look through windows to say goodbye?

That stuff is still happening but no longer newsworthy. Why? Full Democrat control is the reason

THis was about gaining full Democrat control and selling the typical batch of lies to Democrat voters who felt justified in their Democrat vote despite how harmful Democrat votes always are