Biden: "We and world will never recognise Russia's illegal occupation of Crimea", Wha

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The world will never recognize Russian annexation of any part of Ukraine, including Crimea.
     
  2. moon

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    Crimea was handed to Ukraine by Kruschev in 1954- without consultation and without a quorum for the Supreme Soviet committee. Ergo, Crimea was still Russian. Ask a Crimean.

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    There was nothing legal about it and your suggestion that Crimea voted to be Ukrainian is just smoke and mirrors.
     
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    sooner its more similarity the between pseudo Russia (Moscovy) and and the pseudo "Hellenismus", in first case 18c construction, in second case 19c

     
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    As Crimea was not ' part of Ukraine ' it couldn't vote to remain part of it.
     
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    Maybe Khruschev wanted to make amends for the genocide? Actually Crimea was only to be administered by Ukraine, and since they were all part of the Soviet Union it didn't make a difference. The people are now home with Russia where they belong, and that's the important thing, so the heck with the U.S. and its Soros geopolitics.

    The problems now are the people in 'Small Russia' and 'New Russia', since they fear the Banderaites as well, and also want to become part of the Russian Federation.
     
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    Its a 100% certainty that Putin could care less if anyone recognizes it. If he did he wouldn't have done it. Maybe Biden can blast off a couple of shotgun blasts from his balcony, thatll scare putin!
     
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    really? what do you know about economics of unrecognized countries?

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    I think my statement summed it up the first time. You don't think Putin already thought of these things BEFORE he did anything? I don't need to know anything, Putins actions already proved my statement correct.
     
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    Many countries recognize that Crimea is a part of Russia and many more will recognize it after a while. Reunification of Crimea with Russia was done perfectly well. Recently, MSNBC article mentioned:..."Ostrovsky has been in Ukraine throughout the crisis, reporting extensively on Crimea's breakaway and its annexation by Russia. He told MSNBC last week that events in the eastern part of the country mirror those that occurred in Crimea." If true, this is a good news. Eastern provinces will reunite with Russia as well.
     
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    Putin is doing very well, because he is attentive to what people in Ukraine and in Russia want. He is acting in interests of both. NATO and EU cannot decide for Russians and Ukrainians, it is not their business.
     
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    more questions?
     
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    It's ridiculous. How was Ukraine created in the first place? Biden's a moron.
     
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    Of course they're pseudo Greeks. Don't blame them though, Europe gave them that name. They wanted to romanticize. They're Romans you know, just ask them and they'll tell you; 'I'm a Romeos', which means I'm a real Greek in Greek. :roflol: Anyway Alexander was Greek, and if you told him he wasn't he would have killed you. He would have killed you if you told him he was gay also?

    As for the Rus, they lived in Kiev you know, so why are you calling them Ukrainians? Strange! Who are those people that are there now anyway? :confuse:
     
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    Those areas are "occupied" by their own people..
     
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    Yeah, I've got one. What the hell is this post supposed to mean? Understand that almost no one here can read the language you are posting in. If you are going to post a bunch of pictures in whatever language that is, please do us the courtesy of translating.
     
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    1) How did Russia "prevent" self determination via economic warfare? The protests were apparently started after Yanakovych refused to sign away Ukraine's future to an EU that would exploit them worse than Greece. There was no economic war and this was the free decision made. The embargo you cite was back in August. USA and western alliance started interference first by encouraging a violent overthrow.

    2) The president was chased and threatened and driven out the country by armed bandits. Why was the presidential office and Kiev raided?

    3) The impeachment vote was post de facto and only occurred after the overthrow of the government, and was under threat of armed militant so is undemocratic. Constitutional procedure requires the president to be removed after the vote, not chase him away with guns.
     
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    Litwin, I do not know if you indulge in this stuff, but you might enjoy this clip. I liked the part around 1:50
    but it is all "good stuff". I hope you check it out and report back.
    Monday nights, Jon Stewart, The Daily Show

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    BTW Saint Ronald Reagan sent an American invasion force to
    defend threatened Americans
    in the independent nation of Grenada.
    Goose and Gander
    for Putin.

    Question: Am I know a Putinvichki.
    I do admire him standing up to the West's hegemony that involves the West (good guys) breaking promises with steady advances toward Russian borders in market and military alliances not held with Russia too.
    You Tell Me, Litwin - Who is the aggressor?
    And does that make me a Putinvichki or give me my correct suffix.
    Gracias.



    Moi :oldman:




    No :flagcanada:
     
  19. moon

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    You know what's at the root of all this ? The democratically-elected Ukrainian government employed its legal powers to govern for the good of the Ukrainian population by rejecting an EU trade offer in favour of a better trade offer from Russia. You'd better believe it- it wasn't pro-Russian Ukrainians who then began a violent revolt.
     
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    Thanks for that return to reality.
     
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    Indeed. The EU offer would have resulted in the application of 'shock therapy' 'structural adjustment' programmes - a euphemism for Foreign Direct Investment' itself a euphemism for 'modernisation' and plunder which in turn is a euphemism for mass privatisations and huge reductions in the standard of living for the mass of the Ukrainian population, including a 40% reduction in pensions.
     
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    But please note, that it will be russians to be blamed about it.
     
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    vatans, the Russians are victims too
     
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    litwin Well-Known Member

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    which means i am Roman , so called the Greeks are British 19c. invitation. more correct term for you guys is - Orthodox Turks
     
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    many 5 out of 322? propaganda from Kiselevs media urinal , your maximal number is 6 and you know it. Abkhazia, SA, Transvestaliya, have never passed this number .

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    propaganda, only a small minority *alcoholics and criminals) supports occupants
     

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