Biden: "We and world will never recognise Russia's illegal occupation of Crimea", Wha

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    dont worry the green men will come , then a referendum and this is it for the fascist state of "Greece" , Slavic natives are liberated , Russian fleet in Salonika ...
     
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    lost interest, its a such BS. Russian language, Russia ,Rus are 3 different things. Belarus was NEVER called for White Russia during ancient Rus´times. the first one who started call Ruthenean parts (mostly northern parts ) of GBL for Belarus were GDL:s Calvinists (szlachta, patriots and against Rzeczpospolita confederation ) in XVII c.
     
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    how dare a NATO´s fascist state call Putin´s Slavic bathers for Islamist?, dont worry you will pay soon for years of oppression

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    BBC, Mr Kerry :
     
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    Who told you this? There was no referendum on transferring Crimea from Russian Federation to Ukraine in 1954, therefore it was illegally transferred. In fact, the transfer was not even discussed and voted in a congress of the Communist party.
     
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    I do not understand, is Kerry stupid? Russia can have military forces everywhere in its territories where it wants. Also near the borders. I think as a response to this message from Kerry Putin should suggest to US where they should keep their military troops.
     
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    Karry, talked about Putins´agents inside Ukraine, and possible Russian intervention with annexation of some part of Ukraine .
     
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    No referendum was necessary you don't have a clue what you're talking about, the sovereign internationally recognized leader of the Soviet Union legally transferred sovereignty from the Soviet Union to the Ukraine and once again after the dissolution of the Soviet Union the Crimea voted to remain a part of the Ukraine rather than Russia.

    You don't know what you're talking about, this transfer was proposed and agreed to by the Supreme Soviet (parliament of Communist Russia) through the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet.
     
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    a referendum in USSR, you must be joking , it ware many territorial exchanges (with out any referendums) in USSR and between The Eastern Bloc states : Wilno, Bialostok , Drohobych Oblast , etc. i hope you know story about Kaliningrad , RF got some parts of Ukraine in return , Soviet has occupied big parts of Finland , etc. all with out referendums...
    save your brain throw your TV in a window ...Kiselev´s urinal is worst then cancer
     
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    You call this legal, when only one person with a small group of people makes a decision to pass one part of Republic to another one? You make me laugh....This act was against RF constitution, and it was clearly indicated in 1992 by the statement of Supreme Soviet of Russian Federation.
     
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    Kerry reads from a script. Kerry's only saving grace is that he isn't Hillary Clinton.
     
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    Litwin, it is not a joke,by USSR Constitution, Presidium of the Supreme Soviet could arrange a referendum and ask people what they want.
    Of course, there were many territorial exchanges, so it is also now some exchanges-Russia got Crimea back. What do you mean that RF got some parts of Ukraine in return? Which parts?

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    Putins agents inside Ukraine? I do not see anything bad about that. I am sure there are a lot of agents from US in the Ukraine as well.
     
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    name me one referendum? which took a place in USSR
    Google it, its an open source
    you mixed 2 terms legal territorial exchanges and annexations (war-crime)

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    do you know that Crimea is exactly size of Israel ? why you don't support Ukraine?
     
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    so you think its ok to send the terrorists(who kill, take hostages , plunder) inside of other country? and then talk about brotherhood etc.
     
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    No problem, my friend. The referendum in 1991 when there was a question about status of the USSR.
     
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    wrong answer, we talk about territorial exchanges. not about the "future" of USSR
     
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    [video=youtube;UyeYy0bS9ss]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UyeYy0bS9ss[/video]
     
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    Why wrong answer? You asked if there was a referendum in the USSR- I told you-yes, it was. If you specify if there was a referendum about territory exchanges within the USSR- no it was not. But there were no territory exchanges within the USSR after the Constitution of 1936 was accepted.The possibility of referendum was stated in the USSR Constitution,and Presidium of Supreme Soviet had a power to do that. The fact that Khruschev did not use this opportunity to held it just indicates that he violated the main law of the country.
    And it is known why he did it. Because he needed a support from the Ukrainian members of Politburo for new elections for position of the first secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.
     
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    Comon, where did you see hostages in the Eastern Part of the Ukraine? Killing happens from both sides-from the pro-Russian side people, and from other side. But this is, in fact, a war, and you can not avoid deaths in the war. Actually, I believe, if there were no secret services operations in Crimea- there would be a lot of deaths there. But overall, you have to recognize it, it went very smooth there compared to Maidan events.
     
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    The jihadist aljazeera's support of breaking up Western solidarity over a petty dysfunctional pseudo-nation like Ukraine is more proof that we should ally with the Russian people against Islam and support anything that makes Russia stronger, including expansion into their traditional national territory.
     
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    Cossacks, Huns, Mongols, and Chechens.
     
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    Unless Obomber pulls back, Putin will cut off Europe's gas, causing an economic collapse that will domino into America. The USA's Big Oil Occupied Government is provoking this Ukrainian red herring in order to distract us from a necessary war against its partner in price-gouging, jihadist OPEC.
     

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