Biden's Secretary of State promises 'Ukraine will become a member of NATO'

And nato membership is not.

 

Did Blinken say that he was going to wait until Ukraine was defeated before he offers NATO membership?

 

Putin and Zelenskyy were both negotiating, not just willing to negotiate,
but actually negotiating, and as we know reached an agreement
on Apr 1 2022 in Istanbul, but the UK and US cancelled it.

How could they cancel it? Well there's a lot of Neo Nazis in Ukraine and
Zelenskyy would have died of lead poisoning if he was not backed by
the US and UK.

It is not in Ukraine's benefit to be in that war, only Zelenskyy's personally
and some of his officers, for the excellent fringe benefits.

The public of Ukraine and of all the other countries suffer, deaths or destruction
or debt. The ones who gain are mainly the US weapons makers and anyone
they choose to share their profits with.

 

America is in a proxy war with Russia.
Russia wanted Ukraine to remain neutral and America and
the UK wanted Ukraine in NATO and armed to the teeth,
which we promptly did.

 

Either Israel or China, keep up!

 

Israel and Palestine is merely 1 cog in a vast war machine that is ramping up. Side have been drawn and axis and allies are making preparations and strategic moves. It could be Iran as the tipping point. It could be a Venezuelan invasion of Guyana. It could be China's invasion of Taiwan. It could be hot reaction in the tensions in India and Pakistan.

Or... it could be as simple as the US doing something as stupid by inviting Ukraine into NATO, forcing an article 5 reaction.

 

We all are tired of war. But that doesn’t mean we bend over and let dictator like Putin have their way.

 

In this specific speech Blinken didn’t say when. But since the invasion of Ukraine , no one wants Ukraine to be part of NATO until the current war is over. Time and time this question has been asked to Biden administration, EU leader and NATO commander and everyone has been clear that Ukraine will not be part of NATO until the way is over.

But you don’t care about any of these facts. you found an article to bash Biden administration and reverse last 70 years USA foreign policy, so here you are bashing Biden.

 

Did he say he wasn’t

 

lol it’s not in ukraines benefit to not have part of their nation taken by force?

 

You can't back that claim.

Consider the 'revolution of dignity', more than 128 people died in it.

Consider the Russian military annexation of Crimea. Six died, two were pro-Russian
demonstrator, one was pro-Ukrainian demonstrator, two Ukrainian solders, one
Crimean guard. I noted the lack of deaths of Russian military.

It really doesn't look like Crimea and Ukraine were fighting against the Russians.

 

But Biden's handlers might stumble into it.
Bottom line: We really do not know who is in charge.
Besides, I just got a new roof and I don't want no Russkie nuke blowing it off!

Wars are fine if we win them.

 

So Russia isn’t invading Ukraine and trying to take land? lol wth? They didn’t take crimea?

 

they should

 

Well Blnken didn't state that in this article, but if I were a betting man, I would bet that Ukraine doesn't become a NATO member even after hostilities are ended. Otherwise Zelenskyy or his successor could just start things up only with the full backing of NATO.

Then again there may be enough people in the West with a hard on for Russia that they would welcome an opportunity to kick off a war.

 

NATO doesn't work that way


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Start things up? Like it’s their fault Russia invaded them…again?

 

That sounds like a not very substantial comment but OK.

 

If Ukraine launched a military attack to retake Crimea, is that an offensive attack or defensive attack to protect and regain their territory?

 

Well if Trump became POTUS, most likely Ukraine will not be member of NATO until 2030.

 

Hey I'm voting for Trump anyway, you don't have to sell him to me.

 

Neither, the three military deaths were two Ukrainian and one Crimean, it was
Crimea ceding from Ukraine because Ukraine had totally changed the rules
and made it illegal to speak Russian.

Crimea was only administrated by Kyiv for a few years and previously was
part of Russia except for a few invasions, from 1783.

Basically Biden Blinken Nuland Clinton and the whole cabal of them lie as
their first language.

 

Yeah but I'm trying to get a handle on what are the conditions that the other poster wants in order to fulfill his lifelong dream of war with Russia.

 

The situation is Victoria Nuland of the US and the CIA, all with the approval
of VP Biden, changed the government of Ukraine under the cover of a mass
protest (about what?, well, a big camp out with music and fireworks).

And the Russian-speaking people of Ukraine did not particularly like the ban
on speaking Russian or the ban on their church. Russia rather reluctantly
picked up the pieces.

But unless a person wants to know the truth they won't put in the effort of
having to relearn a bunch of things, so they will stick with what they already
believe.

 

I should have said, the regime change was in Feb 2014, and the new
Western govt in Kyiv began shelling Russian speaking Ukrainians, I'm
guessing in Donetsk because that was where Patrick Lancaster was
sending out videos from a few years before the present stage of the
war.

So the first stage, low intensity fighting as Western and central Ukraine
killed people in Eastern Ukraine ran from 2014 until the weapons sent
by Biden and the Democrats arrived in Feb 2022, and the bombardment
became heavy by Feb 19th 2022, and Russia moved in forces to
protect Donbass on Feb 24th 2022, and Biden cried blue murder and
claimed Russia had started the violence.

Russia forces also sent a fast force down from the North toward Kyiv for
several reasons, one was to cause Zelenskyy to panic and pull back his
forces from near Donbass to allow the Russians to take up positions
protecting Donbass, and to show earnest, and then withdrew the Russian
forces as soon as a peace treaty had been agreed.

The UK and US then blew the whistle on the peace treaty, told Zelensky no,
and due to the Azov forces he went with continued war. He would have
needed the protection from the West to go against the Azov forces.

And that gets us to where we are now.

there are more details in the film Ukraine on Fire by Oliver Stone.