Biggest US coal company funded dozens of groups questioning climate change

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  1. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, this is another revolting development.
    It seems that climate change deniers have been getting fooled for years by big business paying assorted hacks to lie about climate change.
    It's a repeat of the criminal actions of the tobacco companies who funded fake science studies for decades claiming that smoking cigarettes was harmless.
    To anyone who's been paying attention, it has been obvious for a long time that special interests were lying to maintain their profits at the expense of the environment and the health of the population.



    https://www.theguardian.com/environ...rgy-coal-mining-climate-change-denial-funding
     
  2. Windigo

    Windigo Banned

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    And? You think there is no right to free speech?
     
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    That and to think that some think there is no "questioning" in science dont understand science.
     
  4. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah yes, the persecution of heretics of the new religion.
     
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    jackson33 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At this time, the accepted American opinion, seems to be "Pro" Climate Change advocates are doing the embellishing, even being paid to do so.

    As for Tobacco, the only results I'm aware of, is the dramatic increase in weight and the increase in caused health problems.
     
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    Well Surfer Joe, lets put a nuclear power plant in your backyard. I'm sure you are OK with that. Right?
     
  7. Arxael

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    I would be. Nuclear power is quite safe. The only reason I am still for coal power plants is the need to ramp up and ramp down power quickly for the grid which a nuclear power plant is not as efficient in doing. However, with more nuclear power plants there would most likely only be a need for a very low amount of coal power plants needed.
     
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    Ok I will ask you this if you say Scientist are influenced and biased by companies that founded their research
    wouldn't it be true that Scientist would be influenced and biased by the governments agenda when a government funds them?
    you cant have it both ways you cant say company funding inferences scientist with out also saying government funding does the same
     
  9. Windigo

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    But you see his side is right so the rest of us need to be thrown in jail or executed.
     
  10. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is not worse than the government using tax payer money to fund the scientists who give them the results they want.
     
  11. Windigo

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    Yep at least these companies are using their own money and not OPM.
     
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    Yup; our biggest "persons" have been abusing their free speech.
     
  13. Hoosier8

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    What is funny is if the science were so solid, you wouldn't have to go to court to prove it.
     
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    What are you talking about? Tobacco use causes increase in weight? No it,s the opposite ending the use of tobacco causes an increase in weight.

    Also go about use causes increased health problems.
    Now regarding weight problems and tobacco don,t worry your little mind about that. Once you get on chemo-therapy and/or radiation you will lose weight no problem. As theTrimpocity says you will lose weight until you are irked of losing weight. Then once you die you will lose a lot of weight because the embalming fluid weighs less than blood. For the ultimate weight loss ask you family to cremate you since I hear you will lose 97% of your weight. You will be the talk of weight watchers.
     
  15. Surfer Joe

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    I can see that the climate change deniers are desperately trying to ignore the fact that they've been duped by lies from special interests. The cons have spent their money well. They have conned the greedy and the ignorant into becoming mindless whiners working against their own best interests.
    Reactionaries are easily fooled by demagoguery.
     
  16. Hoosier8

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    Actually, many of us read the science and pay attention to what is going on in science and politics and are not fooled by the alarmists.
     
  17. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why don't you celebrate post number 43.300 with a few sources of that supposed science you read?
     
  18. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You may never find it since you focus on activists, alarmists, and media.
     
  19. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol...Anyone that averages about 30 posts per day on just one forum is either a paid shill or a very lonely person.
     
  20. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So no... You did not want to provide the science you read? Is it secret denier science no one else is allowed to see or what?

    Well... Good thing I wrote "Supposed" since I had already guessed you would dodge.
    43.306 posts and providing sources is still too soon.

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    Since at least half his posts are one liners in climate change threads... :roll:
     
  21. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry you are not very well read or up to date on any of this.
     
  22. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hard to know since you fail to provide any sources.
    Nevertheless my experience with deniers and creationists is pretty similar. They tend to be stuck in the past. You start noticing it more and more now with AGW as time goes on. Look at any creationist and you will notice how they use elementary school books from the 70's or a study from 1903 in 2016 to try and create insecurity about the science.

    Ah damn... Im just wasting my time here... You have nothing to offer as we have established long ago.
     
  23. Hoosier8

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    Actually you are wasting everyone else's time. Name calling and true belief go together.
     
  24. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Funny... It's not like you claimed this a page ago:

    It is funny how you just post bull(*)(*)(*)(*) non stop without EVER providing a single source.
    The thing is Hoosier... You are transparent. You have to be a complete idiot not to see right through you and your bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
  25. Hoosier8

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    Thanks for proving my points.
     

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