Biggest US coal company funded dozens of groups questioning climate change

Bleaching is not dying.

 

Tell me what the gov't said beside nothing relevant....

 

Yup, no problem...

"We've never seen anything like this scale of bleaching before," says Prof Terry Hughes, convenor of a National Coral Bleaching Taskforce that made global headlines last month when it released survey results showing 93% of the reef had been affected by bleaching.
"Towards the southern end, most of the reefs have minor to moderate bleaching and should soon recover. [However] north of Port Douglas, we're already measuring an average of close to 50% mortality of bleached corals. At some reefs, the final death toll is likely to exceed 90%."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-36486474

 

I support whatever's cheaper and makes the most sense. If clean energy is only 15% more costly than coal, let's go with that. If it's going to be 3 times as expensive, it might not be so viable.

 

Yes no problem. We get El Ninos every few years and coral bleaches. This is the same bull(*)(*)(*)(*) we got about tornadoes and hurricanes like. Read the story carefully. They are using new satellite technology that they have never used before. Under their old methods this event doesn't really stand out at all. The only thing different is better technology.

 

Free speech I have no issue with amoral activities like outright lies and misleading information deliberately designed to decisive that I have an issue with. After all freedom of speech does not protect against misleading advertising. I am just fortunate I have the ability to smell crap and do not deliberately wallowing it like some do

 

Then why are the indigenous of Thursday Island so worried. They are reporting that what they are seeing is VERY unusual and that the fishing is being affected.
https://www.jcu.edu.au/news/release...rce-documents-most-severe-bleaching-on-record
http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/managing-t...an-for-species/corals/what-is-coral-bleaching

I mean it is so serious even our conservatives (here we call them liberals) are pledging money to address the problem

 

Lol...Too pathetic that you can't tell the difference between a private business lying through their teeth to con people and increase their profits and national governments around the world who are acting in the best interests of their people.
But then you people still think that climate change is a commie plot to steal your suvs, don'cha?

 

Environmentalists in a $1.5 trillion industry?

The anti global warming public relations campaign has been going on for over a decade now. So your assertion that the alternative energy industry is behind it is absurd.

There is no evidence of any sort to support your made up assertion. On the other hand, the fossil fuel industry has been exposed repeatedly for financing the junk science and manufactured "debate" over manmade global warming.

 

You must be one of those that doesn't know much about science and think it settled.

 

Thank you. I read my own link.

It flatly refutes your claim that coal fired power plants can be started quickly and used for peak power.

 

I know, money never talks unless it is private money.

 

You have posted 100 (*)(*)(*)(*)ty posts since I asked you to answer what scientific sources you read here:

For reference:

So why don't you celebrate post number 43.400 with these sources? How much do they pay you Hoosier? Was my one cent guess per post close?

 

I see you are still in capable of refuting anything I have posted.

 

No limits to your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) aye?

What were these sources again?

 

And you say they are deceiving people because they disagree with you. As I said your argument is that you are correct so it's okay to trample on others rights.

 

Not to worry. I have GREAT news coming.

Yes. Everyone who disagrees with you... LIES!

Republican state AG's threaten to prosecute climate change alarmists

Thirteen state GOP attorneys general have sent a letter to the Democratic AG's who are investigating ExxonMobile for fraud in climate change research, telling them that if minimizing the danger of climate change is fraud, so is exaggerating the peril. They threaten to prosecute climate alarmists for making spectacular claims of disaster that have not materialized.

If Democratic attorneys general can pursue climate change skeptics for fraud, then also at risk of prosecution are climate alarmists whose predictions of global doom have failed to materialize.

The “cuts both ways” argument was among those raised by 13 Republican attorneys general in a letter urging their Democratic counterparts to stop using their law enforcement power against fossil fuel companies and others that challenge the climate change catastrophe narrative.

"Consider carefully the legal precedent and threat to free speech, said the state prosecutors in their letter this week, headed by Alabama Attorney General Luther Strange.

“If it is possible to minimize the risks of climate change, then the same goes for exaggeration,” said the letter. “If minimization is fraud, exaggeration is fraud.”

The letter comes as Exxon Mobil fights off subpoenas by two prosecutors — Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey and Virgin Islands Attorney General Claude E. Walker — for decades’ worth of climate-related documents and communications with academics, universities and free-market think tanks.

New York Attorney General Eric T. Schneiderman and California Attorney General Kamala Harris have also reportedly launched probes.

The 17 attorneys general — 16 Democrats and one independent — announced at a March 29 press conference that they had formed a coalition, AGs United for Clean Power.

“We think this effort by our colleagues to police the global warming debate through the power of the subpoena is a grave mistake,” said the letter.

The name of the coalition itself shows that the attorneys general “have taken the unusual step of aligning themselves with the competition of their investigative targets,” namely the solar and wind energy.

“If the focus is fraud, such alignment by law enforcement sends the dangerous signal that companies in certain segments of the energy market need not worry about their misrepresentations,” said the GOP letter.

Democrats have denied that the effort violates Exxon’s free-speech rights. Schneiderman spokesman Eric Soufer said in a statement that, “The law is clear: the First Amendment does not give any corporation the right to commit fraud.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/16/gop-ags-dems-climate-alarmists-can-be-prosecuted/

The melting of the arctic ice cap by 2014 is my favorite exaggeration.

 

GOP AGs warn Dems that if climate skeptics can be prosecuted for ‘fraud,’ so can alarmists

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/16/gop-ags-dems-climate-alarmists-can-be-prosecuted/