Bill Maher Torches Biden: Why Did Putin Not Invade Ukraine When Trump Was In Office?

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    …people needed to think about why Russian President Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine under President Joe Biden instead of former President Donald Trump.

    Maher slammed Biden for bringing up the January 6 riot into the discussion about Ukraine and highlighted Biden’s words, “Look, how would you feel if you saw crowds storm and break down the doors of the British Parliament, kill five cops, injure 145, or the German Bundestag, or the Italian Parliament? I think you’d wonder.”

    “OK, but if Putin thought Trump was really that supportive of him, why didn’t he invade when Trump was in office?” Maher continued. “It’s at least worth asking that question if you’re not locked into one intransigent thought.”

    Maher’s remarks come as Russia’s invasion into Ukraine has now entered its third week, with both sides sustaining thousands of causalities as the fighting has caused significant damage to cities.

    Maher criticized Canada’s Justin Trudeau during a recent episode for his remarks about the trucker protesters that took place in his country several weeks ago, saying that Trudeau sounded like Hitler.

    Maher also slammed athletes and celebrities for kowtowing to communist China during another recent episode….







    read more: https://www.dailywire.com/news/bill-maher-torches-biden-why-did-putin-not-invade-ukraine-when-trump-was-in-office







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    ill Maher has been on a roll the last several weeks. I’m stunned at times that this secular liberal is getting it right so often. The truth is that he is not a woke progressive and while rich is not an elitist.
     
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    Bill is right to question this point. He’s also right to support Florida in saying that K-3 grade students truly don’t need to be taught anything at all about sex in school.
     
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    The propaganda around j6 is astounding lol. Only 1 person died during that fiery but mostly peaceful protest and it was a protestor, under very questionable circumstances. If the protestors were as violent as claimed they would have tore that officer apart.

    instead they largely took selfies and then we are also supposed to believe it was so devastating that multiple officers took their own lives afterwords? Rioting so common place in our country, and so much more vicious in other areas where blm has done, and yet officers committed suicide in droves for this?

    the propaganda, and peoples acceptance of it so willingly is astounding.
     
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    Have they practised sex in show and tell?
    That is some kinetic learning, right there.
     
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    Except the crowds on January 6th killed no one. No one. Every cop who died that day or in the following days died of natural causes. This is a lie that is repeated every day, hundreds of times a day, in the liberal media. The only actual homicide that day was a black cop shooting an unarmed white woman.
     
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    You cannot say that without knowing whether they would have dies without the stress that Jan. 6 caused.
    If you want the truth of things, you must be honest and fair.
     
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    Nor can you say that they died due to what happened on Jan 6. In fact the ruling that they died of natural causes lends credence to the opposite conclusion far more than that they died days or even months after Jan 6. They were cops after all. They delt with stress every single day of their career. Sometimes more. Sometimes less.

    To note: only 1 cops died of natural causes. The other 4 died from suicide.
     
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    So unless someone can prove that Jan 6 didn't kill them, that proves it did kill them; even though it's completely impossible to prove it didn't kill them.

    That's truth to a liberal. Unless you can prove something impossible to prove, that means I'm right.

    Un****ingbelievable.
     
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    Mashers an idiot. I mean, do you really think Trump who praised Putin for being “ a genius” was going to take a strong stance against Russian aggression? It’s kinda obvious why bringing up Jan 6th, you know the day the president launched a coup attempt makes sense. Russian misinformation campaigns needs serious division in the US. Which thanks to supporting Trump for office did. It makes more sense for Russia to attack what would have been during Trumps second term. Because Trump would have been forced to be anti-Russian by the GOP.
     
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    No.
    You cannot state any certainty that has not happened, no matter how much you need it to support your argument.
     
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    I think you will find it is the other way around.
    Police are merely human beings with heart problems too.
     
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    One kid pulled his pants down and showed off his stuff to the girls in a K-1 class of mine years ago. That counts, right?
     
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    I cannot question the OP for directly copying the thread title, but it's a stupid thread title.

    I mean REALLY stupid, but it's dailywire.... fully expected.

    Questioning why Putin didn't move under T**** is a valid question, but it's been answered, by people a **** of a lot smarter than Bill Maher.

    And simply asking that question doesn't "torch Biden"...

    What a load of crap... I'm pretty open to almost anything being posted on Current Events, but a Bill Maher monologue barely BARELY qualifies...

    I really think PF.com needs to start DEDUCTING something from their "Trophy Points" for opening stupid threads...
     
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    Excellent thread tbh. Glad to see it. Biden was clearly torched, and his entire presidency has been a disaster. Even Dems are recognizing it more and more. Dems can’t lead properly. Putin didn’t move under Trump because he knew better. Now we have a weak admin and he knew he could.
     
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    Who cares what Bill Maher says? What does he know? He never struck me as particularly smart. He is a "comedian," but he is no Zalensky. He was was never a very good comedian, for that matter. I don't host my own political show, but I can offer all sorts of possibilities, that apparently never even crossed old Bill's steel trap mind.


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    1) Maybe Putin had wanted to (invade Ukraine, sooner) but his troops were being hard-hit by Covid-19; trying to mount a massive military offensive, with a pandemic ravaging your forces, is such a bad idea that even Putin could recognize it.


    2) Maybe he'd wanted to, but unrest at home, was a concern, holding Putin back. Again, it is a bad idea for any leader to bring his nation to war, when the populace is against it (and Ukraine, especially, was going to be a predictably prickly place to tread, because of their shared history with Russia). It is a much worse idea, for an autocrat to send his troops off on a large scale military quest, when his own people are demonstrating against his rule. It was in August of 2020, that Putin's opposition was worrying him enough, so that he had Navalny poisoned with Novichok.



    3) Trump had already done wonders to weaken NATO unity. Maybe Putin was hoping for Trump's re-election, guaranteeing no interference from NATO. And quite possibly, Putin underestimated how much of a difference, Joe Biden would make, if he was to win.


    4) It would be much more effective to control Ukraine through its own politicians, as Putin had done there, in the past, rather than through a full- scale invasion, requiring a long term occupation force, to fight foreseeable, continuing insurrection. Since the leader that Ukraine elected in 2019, had formerly been a comedian, it seems reasonable that Putin might assume he would be able to twist this newbie, Zalensky, to his own will, through his well- practiced, KGB- based, skills of manipulation.

    He was wrong-- to his great surprise, and chagrin.



    5) Before any major campaign, a leader likes his army to be sharp. If most have not had much, if any, battle- testing, it is common for the leader-- like a boxer's manager, getting his man ready for a marquee bout-- to get his troops some tune-up fights. That was one of the greatest benefits, the Russian Army was intended to get, from fighting in Syria.


    6) Maybe Putin was (& the oligarchs were) still building up the financial war chest, to be ready to handle the expected sanctions, that would follow a Russian invasion, on this scale. Perhaps he'd wanted to further deepen his pockets, just to be certain that he had enough to keep Russia afloat, no matter what the world threw at him.

    Once again, he miscalculated
     
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    He, like most so called media personalities, is only interested in feathering his own nest.
     
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    Some realistic options there, and none of them include waiting for Biden to be elected.... go figure..

    I had to chuckle a bit at number 5. Fighting in Syria is completely different than invading Ukraine (terrain, urban, weather, united opponent), so from some reports, his "tune-up" isn't translating so well, but I get your point...
     
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    Those peaceful insurrectionists that you seem to support, are now crying during their sentencing. The investigation is continuing as it should.

    FYI, complain all you want, but those that stormed the Capital will be held accountable.
     
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    But will those that planned and organized it be??
     
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    That is the bottom line here.
     
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    Trump took a strong stand against Putin and Russia in his news making speech last night.
     
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    Well 2 have already been adjudicated against them as insurrection and conspiracy. Hopefully they will smarten up, understand their mistake and take the proper steps to correct it. Hopefully this double standard of justice will die none too soon.
     
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    Well what other little conflicts the Russian military had been involved with-- Moldova, & Georgia, & neither very recently-- were in no way near the scale or intensity of what Putin must have understood, at least, they would face in Ukraine. Syria, at least, gave them the opportunity for practice, coordinating air & ground forces. I don't know how much turnover the Russian military used, over these last 5 years, but whatever experience they got, it has not been highly evident, thus far.
     
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    Too bad that those who stormed that city and many others almost 600 times in 2020 won’t be….
     
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    Fake leftist propaganda
    Its more like, do you really think you have any credibility when you knowingly falsify what Trump said?

    More fake leftist propaganda

    Says the party that lifted sanctions against Putins NS2 in June which would allow Putin to gain a monopoly on all gas going into the EU
    Says the party that stopped all lethal arms into Ukraine in May.
    Just what message do you think Putin got from that?
    The left only has fake propaganda these days.
     
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