"Birther sheriff declares Canada-born Sen. Ted Cruz ineligible to run for president"

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  1. TheChairman

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    Birther sheriff declares Canada-born Sen. Ted Cruz ineligible to run for president
    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/...sen-ted-cruz-ineligible-to-run-for-president/

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    Well the verdict is in. Ted Cruz is a foreigner and because of that He Cannot Run For President!

    Article 2 of the U.S. Constitution REQUIRES a person who is running for the office of President of the United States to be a Natural Born Citizen of which Cruz is not. Cruz can thus kiss his chances of ever running for the presidency Goodbye. End of story.

    ARTICLE 2.​

    "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."​
     
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    But if he were born in Kenya, and schooled in Indonesia, under a different name, that would be perfectly fine.......
     
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    I guess, it depends on who backs you up. If it's Arab sheikhs, then you will have no problems with surpassing the Constitution. Or any other US law if you need.
    Poor Ted Cruz, no Arabs willing to help him...
    In this context, I'm starting to think that Schwarzenegger could also run for president. :wink:
     
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    Birthers are the biggest, non-funny joke I have ever seen.....and it's the kind of joke your uncle Sid tells at every family function so everyone already knows it's lame and simply shakes their heads when he does it. As for Cruz....well there actually might be an issue there, I doubt the GOP will risk it as he is already damaged goods.
     
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    Anyone not born in the US would not qualify.
     
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    so, the so-called birther issue is good only when it works for the socialists, as you have clearly demonstrated if it's about Obie, it's bad, but if it's against a conservative it's good?
    Wow, talk about your cognitive dissonance
     
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    "under the U.S. Constitution’s requirement that the president be a “natural born” citizen – appeared today when Obama’s official MySpace page declared his age is 52, thus placing his birth year at 1957 instead of 1961 as has been claimed.

    That would mean he would have been born during the archipelago’s time as a territory of the U.S., the islands’ status from about 1900 until statehood in 1959.

    The birth year also conflicts with campaign and other White House information that have discussed his 48th birthday this month."
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Well, that does it. Statements to Myspace now outweigh official US Records. So that YouTube documentary of the Moon Landing set must have been real and the e mail chain letters I get from my aunt showing photos of Obama turning into a lizard man are the Real McCoy. How stupid of me to have ever doubted anything conservatives say. Jesus must be Lord indeed.

    I wonder if that sheriff realizes that neither George Washington nor the first 10 or so Presidents could have been natural born citizens of the US since the US didn't exist then. Are their Presidencies therefore invalid and the USA has doesn't really exist?

    Seriously, the Natural Born requirement was put in the Constitution so Caudillos like Napoleon couldn't come here and use substantial overseas followings and resources to take over the country. Seeing as most of the rest of the world logically fears that from us nowadays I think that silly idea has long outlived it's usefulness.
     
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    Obama has produced his birth certificate (actually the state of Hawaii has), which is what every president has done when requested. Now, you want another version...next you will require genetic testing and geneology reports.

    This is so debunked as to be pathetic....give it a rest.....PLEASE.
     
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    I use words that describe the situation.
    If you are a birther you either hate the President so much that you can't see reality. Or you have a mental illness that blocks reality altogether. There is no other alternative that makes sense. Do you have one?

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    Actually I don't think any other President has produced his birth certificate.
     
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    he followed the law and then it was released. Not sure how you missed it. Funny no other President was asked for it. I wonder why?

    True story. If someone asked me for my birth certificate I would have a hard time producing it. Not sure where it is right now.
     
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    another 1.4 trillion in debt, absolutely no transparency, protecting the AG, his wife, his dead mother with executive privilege, Obiecare (which is about to hit the ditch), Benghazi, by-passing Congress, ignoring immigration laws, legislating from the Oval Office............you mean that reality?
     
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    What does any of that have to do with the idiotic birther lie?
     
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    You guys really ought to change this law if Schwarzeneger is to one day become President.
     
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    Well....it does have that whole imagined outrage thingy in common.
     
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    Again why wont he produce his long form BC? Simple request for application of the United States presidency.
    "conflicts with campaign and other White House information "
     
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    I agree the White House scanned document of his short form has to be a lie. Why else would it be a 9 layered document?
    " the document the White House so proudly uploaded is not simply a scanned version of an original paper document. Instead, it’s what’s called a “layered” document. A document that’s scanned will have only one layer, which is the image itself. A “layered,” electronically manipulated document will show one electronic addition after another. The White House’s birth certificate PDF has nine layers. This was an assembled electronic document, not a scanned paper document."
     
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    Like the president, Cruz was born to an American mother and a foreign-born father. Unlike Obama, Cruz was born outside the United States, leading some to believe that he is not eligible to run for highest office in the land since he is not a “natural born citizen,” as required by Article Two in the Constitution.

    Cruz is eligible ... These birther pin heads can't read the law. Makes no difference to me. I wouldn't vote for Cruz.
     
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    President Soetoro has left to many unanswered questions and presented to many fake documents for any half way intelligent person not to have questions.
     
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    Yeah, yeah, but what about Arnold?
     
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    Actually, Obama is an open book.. You have been listening to fools who can't read the law and don't know the legal definition of "jurisdiction".. He was born in Hawaii but even if he were miraculously born in British East Africa before Kenya had an international airport, he would still be a "natural born US citizen".
     
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    City/town hall?
     
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    The state issues birth certificates.
     
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    I for one think Arnold did a great job as California's governor - he wasn't some silly neo-con wreck as some people expected, but closer to the paleos. It would be silly to prevent such an american success story to become President because he was born Austrian, not?

    Drop the law, let a candidate's background be known and let people decide. How about that?
     
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    As my signature states, Obama is a giant mistake, and his past is allow riddled with mistakes. what a mistake have Americans made voting for a fool.
     

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